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Date:      Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:26:57 -0800 (PST)
From:      Jeff Gray <jwgray@netbox.com>
To:        "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@imach.com>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: co-location model
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10103111918240.97103-100000@adsl-63-201-55-220.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0103112002330.10411-100000@workhorse.iMach.com>

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jail is a good approach for a different problem.  Not sure I would want to
run hundreds of virtual jail servers on one intel type box.  jail does not
solve the opportunity of taking 20 machines from a company and replacing
it with a 'better' model and then acting as their co-location service
manager.

The mainframe suggestion/query is to provide real reliability, real fault
tolerance, real hardware efficiency [jail does this], real security by a
well designed mainframe OS management system, real scalability of user
resources like storage space.

Lots of good comments so far but, to date, no direct response to my two
questions :-)


 My two questions.
-Is this a reasonable long term model for ISPs and or server farms?

-Does anyone offer this today at the scale of rack size bites of
  physical space?   


Jeff


On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Forrest W. Christian wrote:

> Have you looked at jail?
> 
> With jail you can effectively create numerous machines in one physical
> machine.  I am planning on doing this as an entry level option in our
> colo space.
> 
> man jail
> 
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Jeff Gray wrote:
> 
> > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:32:22 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Jeff Gray <jwgray@netbox.com>
> > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Cc: Jeff Gray <jwgray@netbox.com>
> > Subject: co-location model
> > 
> > In thinking about the co-location model of many machines, whether 1U or
> > bigger, one realizes that lots of space, lots of energy [I am writing from
> > California], lots of iron and other materials are inefficiently consumed.  
> > Let alone late night trips to the server farm.
> > 
> > Instead of co-location with lots of  physical servers if someone were to setup
> > a mainframe that provided, 
> >   -multiple OS configurations and alternatives
> >   -centralized hardware management
> >   -centralized security management on the mainframe
> >   -flexible, reliable, scalable storage
> >   
> > then space, energy, raw materials and I suspect major costs could be
> > minimized. Late night trips to the server could be eliminated!
> > 
> > My two questions.
> > -Is this a reasonable long term model for ISPs and or server farms?
> > 
> > -Does anyone offer this today at the scale of rack size bites of
> > physical space?
> > 
> > 
> > [I say mainframe only to emphasize extreme hardware and software
> > reliability].
> > 
> > Interested to hear what the community thinks.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > jeff
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE
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