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Date:      Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:34:20 -0800 (PST)
From:      Doug White <dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu>
To:        Mark Crosland <markc@metapath.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Re: scsi/ncr install, no ncr0
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSI.3.94.961219003248.258V-100000@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <199612132109.NAA03842@redoubt.metapath.com>

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On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Mark Crosland wrote:

> Thanks for the reply.  Turns out a gentleman by the name of Robert Eckardt
> (roberte@mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de) recognized this problem.  He thought it was
> a combination of BSD ncr driver, ncr controller and HP hard drives.  The
> BSD ncr driver will only use 'tagged' commands to read/write
> data from the drives.  I worked on a SCSI-1 driver  several years ago, so
> I gather that 'tagged' cmds are SCSI-2 cmds.  However, the HP
> drives don't accept these cmds, and the BSD ncr driver won't 'back off'
> and use simpler SCSI cmds.  Robert claimed it was fixed in 2.2, and sure
> enough I loaded the 2.2 boot floppies from ftp.cdrom.cm and was able to
> boot far enough so I could fdisk things.  Of course I didn't fdisk
> anything because my CDs are 2.1.5 and I would have end up with a 2.1.5 kernel
> that wouldn't see my hard drives (most likely !?).  So I guess I wait for
> 2.2 CDs !?

Wierd!  

> Robert also indicated that the ncr is the only controller that supports
> tagged commands (?)  So if the driver and disk support tagged cmds I
> would get better performance.  So, what do you think, I ought to be able
> to raise some #$%^& with HP.  Are these tagged/overlapped SCSI cmds
> standard SCSI-2 ?  Seems to me they ought be supported.

Odd.  I always thought tagged command queueing was a nifty extension, not
part of the spec.  I don't think my NCR is using it; if I use the fancy
driver for DOS, I can crash out my CDROM by copying /kernel.IDE from the
CD to the DOS partition :(  If I use the lightweight direct-access driver
it works OK.  It's working fine on 2.2-ALPHA here so I shouldn't worry I
guess...?

Glad you got it worked out though.  Strange...

Doug White                              | University of Oregon  
Internet:  dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu    | Residence Networking Assistant
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite    | Computer Science Major




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