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Date:      Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:13:52 -0800 (PST)
From:      John Kozubik <john@kozubik.com>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD is becoming ... by, and for, FreeBSD developers - clarification
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1201181100170.19710@kozubik.com>
In-Reply-To: <5000.1326883643@critter.freebsd.dk>
References:  <5000.1326883643@critter.freebsd.dk>

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Hi Poul, Andriy,

On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

> FreeBSD has _always_ been a project by the community, for the community
> and there is no way it can be any other way.
>
> (You can consider this a law of nature as far as voluntary organizations
> of intelligent beings governed by the principle of self-interest.)


I think there's been a slight misunderstanding.  Of course the project is 
by the community and for the community, etc., and I agree that expecting 
it to be any other way is naive.

What I was saying is that I see FreeBSD becoming an OS whose only purpose 
is the development of FreeBSD.

Being detached from the end users is acceptable (albeit negative, I think) 
but being detached from the *end use* is not workable.


> Traditionally successful ways of getting FreeBSD to do what you want:
>
> 	Join the community and do it yourself
> 	Brib^H^H^H^HDonate cool hardware to community members
> 	Brib^H^H^H^HPay cool cash to community members


As you may know, I've (personally) put up several thousand dollars for 
specific bounties, projects and bug fixes over the last few years.

Yesterday in the original thread I put up USD $50k as well as hardware, 
hosting and bandwidth.

Cheers!



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