Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:56:33 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@village.org> To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Cc: Doug Barton <DougB@gorean.org>, papowell@astart.com, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bringing LPRng into FreeBSD? Message-ID: <200006271756.LAA47478@harmony.village.org> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:18:07 MDT." <200006271418.IAA04077@nomad.yogotech.com> References: <200006271418.IAA04077@nomad.yogotech.com> <3958502D.DF9729BD@gorean.org> <200006242153.OAA01110@h4.private> <200006270615.AAA31842@harmony.village.org> <200006270725.BAA32822@harmony.village.org>
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In message <200006271418.IAA04077@nomad.yogotech.com> Nate Williams writes: : > : I'm surprised to hear this coming from you, actually. I disagree : > : strongly that discouraging commercial vendors from being able to : > : integrate "stock" parts of freebsd into their product is "not our : > : problem." One of the drawing cards for freebsd is that commercial : > : vendors _can_ take our code and use it in any manner they see fit. The : > : list of exceptions is long enough already, I haven't seen a compelling : > : reason to make it longer. : > : > I'd like to point out that FreeBSD isn't all Free. Significant : > portions of the tree are covered by licenses that require changes be : > disclosed. The compilers, binary utilities, awk, perl, and others : > have this restriction. : : Ahh, but very few (if any) of them are needed in an embedded system. : How many people are going to run 'grep' on an embedded system, or : re-compile the source to the system? There are many instances of awk and grep in the startup scripts :-(. : > Likewise there are parts of the system that don't even come as source : > (the fla driver is one example). These are restrictions that people : > must live with. : : Again, this isn't a problem in embedded systems, since you'd just go an : avoid the driver in question. Unless you have to deal with the fla device, which is common in embedded systems. Then it either works or it doesn't. : > Second, the ARTISTIC license does not preclude FreeBSD from including : > LPRng. This statement is still true. We can comply with all the : > terms of the license. : : The ARTISTIC license isn't that much different from the GPL from a : commercial entities POV. For FreeBSD it is no different at all, since : we ship with source. Yes. I hadn't realized that part of it last night. I'm rethinking my position on things. : That's one of the main reasons I did the BSD thing when Linux was at : 0.11. Got me beat. I waited until 0.98q or so until I made the jump to dual boot and never did upgrade to 1.0 but instead reclaimed the disk space. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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