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Date:      Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:01:20 +0300
From:      Kaya Saman <SamanKaya@netscape.net>
To:        multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Setting audio input source for Darkice using mixer: can't set vol??
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Ok so since no one is able to answer or help out with the below; is 
there any way of taking the output of XMMS2 and digitally routing it to 
the input of Darkice???

I don't want to connect a whole bunch of analog cables and especially 
not one from output to input as I need the output to listen but also 
need to get a duplicate to be able to stream......

Is anyone able to advise me at all????

Many thanks,

Kaya


On 09/06/2010 20:59, Kaya Saman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Kaya Saman<SamanKaya@netscape.net>  
> wrote:
>
>> >  Hi guys,
>> >
>> >  just want to bump this as it's been a few days!!
>> >
>> >  Am too new on FreeBSD to diagnose the issue myself or have the 
>> experience to
>> >  know where this problem is coming from so I hope someone can help??
>> >
>> >  Thanks,
>> >
>> >  Kaya
>> >
> It's unclear what your problem is. You cannot set 'vol' as a recording
> source, it is an output device. You conclude correctly that your
> recording devices are mic and mix.
>
> Cheers
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> On 06/09/2010 06:44 PM, Ian Smith wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Kaya Saman wrote:
>> >  Hi guys,
>> >
>> >  just want to bump this as it's been a few days!!
>> >
>> >  Am too new on FreeBSD to diagnose the issue myself or have the 
>> experience to
>> >  know where this problem is coming from so I hope someone can help??
>> >
>> >  Thanks,
>> >
>> >  Kaya
>> >
>> >
>> >  On 06/06/2010 11:05, Kaya Saman wrote:
>> > >  Hi,
>> > >
>> > >  am trying to set pcm or vol as the input source for my mixer in 
>> order to be
>> > >  used in conjunction with Darkice.
>> > >
>> > >  For Darkice I have already set input as /dev/dsp which should be 
>> ok as
>> > >  /dev/dsp0.0 comes up when using ls /dev..... however, I had this 
>> config
>> > >  working on another box so from what I can tell the 0.0 just 
>> gives the
>> > >  amount of simultaneous channels if I'm not mistaken.
>> > >
>> > >  The major difficulty however is coming from the fact that I 
>> can't set the
>> > >  rec input to be pcm or vol :-(
>> > >
>> > >  pciconf -lv shows this:
>> > >
>> > >  hdac0@pci0:0:27:0:    class=0x040300 card=0x50038086 
>> chip=0x3a3e8086
>> > >  rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
>> > >      vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
>> > >      device     = 'HD Audio Controller'
>> > >      class      = multimedia
>> > >      subclass   = HDA
>> > >
>> > >  and as both Andrew Thompson and Frank Shute helped me last time 
>> getting:
>> > >
>> > >  snd_hda_load="YES"
>> > >
>> > >  into /boot/loader.conf audio works without any problem too as 
>> have tested
>> > >  playback!!
>> > >
>> > >  If I try to set:
>> > >
>> > >  # mixer =rec vol
>> > >  mixer: unknown recording device: vol
>> > >  usage: mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] [dev [+|-][voll[:[+|-]volr]] ...
>> > >         mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] recsrc ...
>> > >         mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] {^|+|-|=}rec rdev ...
>> > >   devices: vol, pcm, speaker, mic, mix, rec
>> > >   rec devices: mic, mix
>> > >
>> > >  I just get that the rec interfaces are mic or mix?? This is not 
>> the same as
>> > >  my other box using a different and much older integral sound chip.
>>
>> Seeing noone else has pounced .. we run Darkice for audio logging, but a
>> hacked version of edcast_jack for streaming, and that on a Debian box
>> using jackd and ALSA to split the feed to both of them, which may not
>> seem relevant at all .. but we use Mix as the recording device, zeroing
>> levels and muting all channels we're not using (mic, pcm, CD etc).  We
>> record from Line and set levels on that, but it works the same using
>> just pcm in the mix instead.
>>
>> Not what you asked I know, but it may work ok for you .. with digital
>> mixing with everything else off or zero, there's no degradation.
>>
>> HTH, Ian
>>
>> > >  I also attempted to comment the snd_hda_load out of 
>> /boot/loader.conf and
>> > >  include this instead:
>> > >
>> > >  snd_driver_load="YES"
>> > >
>> > >  which basically did the same thing as the above with (so also a 
>> small
>> > >  question here about which line is better?) so yeah am stuck with 
>> both
>> > >  kernel module loaders providing the same output :-(
>> > >
>> > >  Is there a way other then feeding a cable from the output into 
>> the input to
>> > >  rectify this issue??
>> > >
>> > >  Thanks,
>> > >
>> > >  Kaya
>
> Thanks Ian and Tom for the responses :-)
>
> Tom I'm just going to quote you again: "
>
> It's unclear what your problem is. You cannot set 'vol' as a recording
> source, it is an output device.
>
> "
>
> Actually the box that's sitting in front of me can do this:
>
> $ mixer
> Mixer vol      is currently set to  75:75
> Mixer pcm      is currently set to  75:75
> Mixer speaker  is currently set to  75:75
> Mixer line     is currently set to  75:75
> Mixer mic      is currently set to   0:0
> Mixer cd       is currently set to  75:75
> Mixer rec      is currently set to   0:0
> Mixer igain    is currently set to   0:0
> Mixer ogain    is currently set to  50:50
> Mixer line1    is currently set to  75:75
> Mixer phin     is currently set to   0:0
> Mixer phout    is currently set to   0:0
> Recording source: vol
>
> Of course it's a totally different system running FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE 
> 32bit as opposed to 64bit. Also it has a much older sound card which 
> may have better support??
>
> Anyway this is what I'm after as currently I can't get my 
> Darkice/Icecase2/Drupal5 streaming service working as there's no sound 
> input!!
>
> I think it's probably just the driver for the HD audio interface in my 
> view. But how to sort or who to go to, to help sort??
>
> Regards,
>
> Kaya
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