Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:59:33 -0800 From: Rob Ballantyne <robballantyne3@gmail.com> To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] Message-ID: <6F9F9905-3E6B-42FC-9BB2-9FDBAD9A64B4@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5493BFF5.3050605@freebsd.org> References: <DB500816-8269-40E0-985E-5A91FCD369F1@dsl-only.net> <CACcTwY=1qMqVz%2BXQSBkUcyXpU4Li=EBP_=S04dwcLzOczKPO4Q@mail.gmail.com> <5493BFF5.3050605@freebsd.org>
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I can confirm memstick 64-bit install worked on a G5 quad. I also note that I= only tried the memstick after I failed to get the ISO to boot properly. Rob B. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> wr= ote: >=20 > I believe there is a similar issue affecting sparc64. It seems like the IS= O9660 support in loader may be broken on big-endian systems. Can you check i= f the ppc64 memstick image boots OK? > -Nathan >=20 >> On 12/18/14 18:29, Bill Sorenson wrote: >>=20 >> I can confirm that 10.1-RELENG and 10-STABLE will boot at least an XServe= G5 when built from source on a running 10.0-RELEASE install. Problem appear= s specific to the iso from what I can tell. Although I've been wrong before.= I'm not sure how the isos are generated in the release process so no idea i= f it makes sense. >>=20 >> -Bill S. >>=20 >> On Dec 18, 2014 8:22 PM, "Mark Millard" <markmi@dsl-only.net <mailto:mark= mi@dsl-only.net>> wrote: >>=20 >> I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report >> sounds like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE >> .iso's burned to CDs for PowerMac G5's. >>=20 >> As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I >> bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See >> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.h= tml >> .) >>=20 >> I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no >> XServe access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My >> tries do not go all the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso, >> however. As I remember I started trying in 2014-Apr or so. >> Eventually I stopped checking each new 10.0-STABLE but did check >> some as time went on. >>=20 >>=20 >> From: Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org >> <mailto:nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>> >> Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based >> CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] >> Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT >> To: Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net >> <mailto:markmi@dsl-only.net>>, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org >> <mailto:freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org> >>=20 >> Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a >> 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. >> What really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders >> are identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super >> weird. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and >> reminder! >> -Nathan >>=20 >> On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: >>=20 >> To make clear about the "/" in the line: >>=20 >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The >> fans then gradually spin up. >>=20 >> This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It >> always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that >> is from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from >> /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just >> the visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>; >>=20 >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net >> <mailto:markmi@dsl-only.net>> wrote: >> First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the >> G5's (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes >> are easier to understand): >>=20 >> For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying >>=20 >> loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf >>=20 >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The >> fans then gradually spin up. >>=20 >> In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the >> line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel >>=20 >> The original messages were: >>=20 >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html >> and >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html >>=20 >> Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even >> though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything >> yet. And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks >> so I will not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can >> try once I get back. >>=20 >> All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE >> worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: >> Late April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. >>=20 >> Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. >> PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have >> other kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>; >>=20 >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net >> <mailto:markmi@dsl-only.net>> wrote: >> This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to >> emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). >>=20 >> I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same >> way/place whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 >> 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's >> .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried emulation. >>=20 >> Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and >> .txz files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not >> buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. >>=20 >> My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were >> reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) >>=20 >> FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) >> boot hangs very early in the process >>=20 >> Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso >> burned to CD? A multi-processor one? >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>; >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>; >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org <mailto:freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org> mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >> <mailto:freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>" >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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