Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:39:51 -0500 From: Britt Dodd <brittman914@gmail.com> To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] Message-ID: <CAMtLt3uFz8Rx%2BRaQrKN0J0Sf34%2BCAS4ow888TP%2BMz298Ze65sQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6F9F9905-3E6B-42FC-9BB2-9FDBAD9A64B4@gmail.com> References: <DB500816-8269-40E0-985E-5A91FCD369F1@dsl-only.net> <CACcTwY=1qMqVz%2BXQSBkUcyXpU4Li=EBP_=S04dwcLzOczKPO4Q@mail.gmail.com> <5493BFF5.3050605@freebsd.org> <6F9F9905-3E6B-42FC-9BB2-9FDBAD9A64B4@gmail.com>
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Oh nice! How'd you get the G5 to boot the memstick image? I wasn't aware that OF would boot non Mac-OS memory sticks... On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Rob Ballantyne <robballantyne3@gmail.com> wrote: > I can confirm memstick 64-bit install worked on a G5 quad. I also note > that I only tried the memstick after I failed to get the ISO to boot > properly. > > Rob B. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> > wrote: > > > > I believe there is a similar issue affecting sparc64. It seems like the > ISO9660 support in loader may be broken on big-endian systems. Can you > check if the ppc64 memstick image boots OK? > > -Nathan > > > >> On 12/18/14 18:29, Bill Sorenson wrote: > >> > >> I can confirm that 10.1-RELENG and 10-STABLE will boot at least an > XServe G5 when built from source on a running 10.0-RELEASE install. Problem > appears specific to the iso from what I can tell. Although I've been wrong > before. I'm not sure how the isos are generated in the release process so > no idea if it makes sense. > >> > >> -Bill S. > >> > >> On Dec 18, 2014 8:22 PM, "Mark Millard" <markmi@dsl-only.net <mailto: > markmi@dsl-only.net>> wrote: > >> > >> I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report > >> sounds like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE > >> .iso's burned to CDs for PowerMac G5's. > >> > >> As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I > >> bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See > >> > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.html > >> .) > >> > >> I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no > >> XServe access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My > >> tries do not go all the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso, > >> however. As I remember I started trying in 2014-Apr or so. > >> Eventually I stopped checking each new 10.0-STABLE but did check > >> some as time went on. > >> > >> > >> From: Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org > >> <mailto:nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>> > >> Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based > >> CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] > >> Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT > >> To: Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net > >> <mailto:markmi@dsl-only.net>>, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org > >> <mailto:freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org> > >> > >> Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a > >> 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. > >> What really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders > >> are identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super > >> weird. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and > >> reminder! > >> -Nathan > >> > >> On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: > >> > >> To make clear about the "/" in the line: > >> > >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > >> fans then gradually spin up. > >> > >> This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It > >> always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that > >> is from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from > >> /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just > >> the visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. > >> > >> === > >> Mark Millard > >> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>; > >> > >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net > >> <mailto:markmi@dsl-only.net>> wrote: > >> First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the > >> G5's (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes > >> are easier to understand): > >> > >> For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying > >> > >> loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > >> > >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > >> fans then gradually spin up. > >> > >> In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the > >> line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel > >> > >> The original messages were: > >> > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html > >> and > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html > >> > >> Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even > >> though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. > >> > >> > >> > >> As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything > >> yet. And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks > >> so I will not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can > >> try once I get back. > >> > >> All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE > >> worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: > >> Late April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. > >> > >> Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. > >> PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have > >> other kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) > >> > >> > >> > >> === > >> Mark Millard > >> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>; > >> > >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net > >> <mailto:markmi@dsl-only.net>> wrote: > >> This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to > >> emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). > >> > >> I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same > >> way/place whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 > >> 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's > >> .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried emulation. > >> > >> Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and > >> .txz files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not > >> buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. > >> > >> My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were > >> reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) > >> > >> FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) > >> boot hangs very early in the process > >> > >> Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso > >> burned to CD? A multi-processor one? > >> > >> === > >> Mark Millard > >> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>; > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> === > >> Mark Millard > >> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>; > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org <mailto:freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org> mailing > list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > >> <mailto:freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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