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Date:      Mon, 20 May 2002 16:29:35 +0200
From:      Matthias Andree <ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Cc:        sos@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ATA observations in FreeBSD 4.6-RC
Message-ID:  <m3it5iyjsg.fsf@merlin.emma.line.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020520171102.C80338-100000@woozle.rinet.ru> (Dmitry Morozovsky's message of "Mon, 20 May 2002 17:15:20 %2B0400 (MSD)")
References:  <20020520171102.C80338-100000@woozle.rinet.ru>

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Dmitry Morozovsky <marck@rinet.ru> writes:

> SS> This is a known problem (for some) but until now I havn't been able
> SS> to reproduce it here at all, and hence have not been able to
> SS> work on a fix. The solution would be to make a note in the docs
> SS> somewhere that there is potential problems on some HW wtih this..
>
> Well, Soren, I already told I have test box with serial console and
> would be very happy to help track these bugs down (actually, I've already
> made an account for you there -- so just contact me privately, please
> ;-)

Dmitry, please apologize for using your mail as a stepping stone, but I
did not get Soeren's reply.

If my PR #37060 lacks ANY information that may help tracking this
down. I just filed a followup noting that I'm using ATA_STATIC_ID today
because I found it lacked from my original report.

It MAY be because I don't have an ad1 drive and use ATA_STATIC_ID. It
MAY be because ATA initialization is hosed. It MAY be because ad1 is not
there regardless of STATIC_ID state.

I am willing to help find the bug, to use ata-disk.c kernel debugging
patches to track this bug down, and I have two computers here, I can
certainly use a serial debugger if instructed what I am to look
for. Full kernel compilation for my machine with my configuration takes
less than 10 minutes.

I'm a C/C++ programmer, but I'm not acquainted with ata(4) or ata-disk.c
or FreeBSD kernel hacking, and I'm not really aware of DDB or FreeBSD
kernel debugging tools.

> I realize that at the very moment it would be inappropriate to deep
> digging due to RC stage for 4.6. But, sooner or later (and I personally
> prefer sooner, you know :) this should be fixed.

Show stopper and "panic at boot-up" are best fixed before the
release. If the release schedule is not met, that's still better than a
hosed ATA/IDE sub system and a spoiled reputation.

If this issue cannot be nailed down, then tagged queueing should be a
compile-time option and be removed from the GENERIC kernel.

-- 
Matthias Andree

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