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Date:      Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:01:43 +0200
From:      Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
To:        "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com>, "Brett Glass" <brett@lariat.org>, "Rahul Siddharthan" <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>, <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: ORBS vs MAPS
Message-ID:  <v04220800b59c61ec5cf4@[10.0.1.2]>
In-Reply-To: <NCBBLIEPOCNJOAEKBEAKMEBNJNAA.davids@webmaster.com>
References:  <NCBBLIEPOCNJOAEKBEAKMEBNJNAA.davids@webmaster.com>

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At 5:48 PM -0700 2000/7/19, David Schwartz wrote:

>  	ORBS consistently attempts to pass email through other people's machines
>  through the use of spoofed headers. This is illegal in many jurisdictions.
>  IMO, a single spoofed header is SPAM and network abuse.

	No, they don't spoof any headers at all.  In fact, they clearly 
label all the test e-mail they send as being from their testing 
server.

	They do try all the same standard tricks on the sender and 
recipient addresses that junkmailers are known to try, to see if the 
machine in question might not properly look inside quotes, or 
mistakenly think that they can trust the claimed envelope sender as 
opposed to looking at the IP address, etc....

	However, this isn't spoofing headers.

--
   These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy
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