Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 00:04:57 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney <jmg@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> To: Vincent Poy <vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM> Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some advice needed. Message-ID: <19970413000457.62888@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95.970412022300.17814S-100000@mail.MCESTATE.COM>; from Vincent Poy on Sat, Apr 12, 1997 at 02:27:18AM -0700 References: <19970411233527.43600@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <Pine.BSF.3.95.970412022300.17814S-100000@mail.MCESTATE.COM>
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Vincent Poy scribbled this message on Apr 12: > On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > > Hmmm, for under $200, that still isn't too bad. I thought it > > > would cost way more than that. How much would something new like this > > > cost? > > > > well.. if you go with a cheep pentium mb (it's cheeper than a 486mb) that > > will run you about $95 or $100... then an AMD k5 (they are slightly more > > expensive than an AMD 5x86/133 your looking at aroound $45 (75) to $95 (133). > > then case would be around $50... ethernet card (16bit ne2000) $30... > > memory, say 8megs (might want to get 16megs) for $45... then you have your > > multiport cards... which can have a varing range of prices... so your > > looking at about $300 plus the cost of the multiport cards... > > Hmm, will a K5 run as well as a P5 though? Since it might be > faster but what about compatibility issues? As for the ethernet card, well... as I said I haven't any personal experience... I think I heard that it works perfectly fine... > wouldn't a 100Mbps PCI be better? But is 8 megs really enough for a sure... but it will cost around $70-$80... also... do you need 100mbps? and have the hub? :) > terminal server? Now how much does the multiport cards cost? you'll probably want to run with 16megs though... but most of my memory is taken up by gated... you also have to realize that when running.. most of the pages for the executable will be shared... so you shouldn't have to have more than a couple 100k per port... right now my terminal server has 1meg free and it's serving four port... (and it's running gated, plus a raw getty for serial console logins)... > > of course you can do a lot with this box... I happen to run gated on it so > > that routing is handle properly.. :) > > This is only if I can figure out how to get gated working. =) heh... it's actually not THAT hard to get working once you do... just browse the mailing list archives... I posted an example gated.conf file a few weeks ago... > > > What does that $5k include? > > > > sync card, csu/dsu, 5-10 modems, 5-10 phone lines, another 2gig hd, dat > > drive for backups, inet access (56k frame relay)... most monthly fees will > > be covered for a few months... > > I thought you had a T1 but 56k would cost $5k already? I could pull a T1 for 5k.. but I wouldn't have any money to pay for more than the first month of server... which would be hard to start out with a income of $1k+/month.. :) > > > Yep, that's true unless you had to deal with Rain.net or something > > > in Oregon. > > > > well.. from the sounds of it.. there are a number of higher level providers > > that are starting to fight it out locally... seems one company is offering > > T1 locally.. and they connectivity is via microwave to portland... (that > > way they don't have to run cable)... so there are a number of choices for > > top level providers locally.... this will also causing the service to > > improve to make sure you stay with 'em... > > Hmmm, via microwave? Now that must cost them something to do that > but isn't microwave slower than actual cable? from what I hear it doesn't have a higher latency... and actually if the FCC would allow them they could easily run over 1.544mbit... the only real cost is the FCC license to run it... plus in some ways it's more reliable than cable as you don't have to worry about the cable being dug up.. :) this is only some info that I remeber hearing from a short discussions about alternate providers locally... ttyl.. -- John-Mark Cu Networking Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD
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