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Date:      Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:11:15 -0800 (PST)
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@hub.freebsd.org>
To:        David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
Cc:        Jonathon McKitrick <jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: threads....
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911141307530.64927-100000@hub.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <000401bf2e65$ffd3d2f0$021d85d1@youwant.to>

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On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, David Schwartz wrote:

> > On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> >
> > > Here's a perfect example of when threads matter.. i want the newest
> > > version of Licq.  The newest, with all recent fixes, is 0.71.  But i
> > > have to DL 0.61 because after that they became THREADED!  I hope we have
> > > threads (kernel) soon.
> >
> > We already have threads. How exactly does licq (an ICQ client) rely on
> > kernel-supported threads (only needed for some level of SMP scalability?)
>                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> 	You're joking right? Or do you think that real-world server applications
> don't mind if you freeze everything while the kernel services a page fault
> or reads a file from a slow disk?

I am referring to the case in question: an ICQ client. ICQ is not a
high-performance server application, and does not require parallelism for
performance reasons.

I'm fairly familiar with the issues associated with kernel-supported
threads (or lack thereof) in general.

Kris

----
Cthulhu for President! For when you're tired of choosing the _lesser_ of
two evils..



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