Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 03:29:26 -0400 From: "leegold" <goldtech@worldpost.com> To: <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry Message-ID: <001901c004f8$3628fbf0$0ded7ad1@beefstew>
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How the hell am I gonna learn how to set up a web server? just learning how to install FreeBSD was relatively difficult. But searching the web for basic info on how to set up a web server turned up nothing. I'm going to call walnut creek and see if there's reasonably priced support and ask all the stupid questions I need to, too. I feel stupid. If I do one small procedural thing/day towards implementing the server that will keep the questions tightly focused - I'll try that. it will probably take a long time. I eyed a SCO package at the bookstore w/Netscape server - a neat bundle, but I want FBSD and Apache. ----- Original Message ----- From: "leegold" <goldtech@worldpost.com> To: "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au> Cc: <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 2:58 PM Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > So this it's a major undertaking explaining this? I would imagine so. > But it's really where FreeBSD shines as i understand it. It would be > glorious, nifty, cool to have a step-by-step explanation of the > procedure. When you have the time and feel like demystifying the web > server setup. I'll go at it like a big dog. > > I'd do a fresh FreeBSD install w/out X - that's for sure. I have never > downloaded source and compiled to get a port/app. I've always tried to > get the binaries. There's alot of stuff that would have to be covered. > > And now for questions that show my partial ( total ? ) ignorance: > > What is the purpose of Apache? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au> > To: "leegold" <goldtech@worldpost.com> > Cc: <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:13 AM > Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > > > > Ahhhhhhhhhh yes ..... the dreaded getty & apache strike again > !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Both those really need a better (as in "more explicit") explanation > than > > whats > > presently available, & are high on the list of stuff for the next > version of > > Pedantic FreeBSD. The "man ppp" isn't anywhere near as bad as the > apache > > stuff generally though, thanks to Brian Somers ... he has been > extremely > > helpful whenever I've > > had problems comprehending any user-ppp issues. Basically what I've > been > > doing > > for the dialin setup is creating the ppplogin file, then setting > ppplogin as > > the login > > shell for dialin users, basically as the "Method 1" in man ppp > explains. I > > HATE that poxridden "vi" monstrosity though, so to make life easier > when I > > run "vipw" to edit > > the master password file, I first set the default editor to "ee" by > using > > "setenv > > EDITOR ee". That doesn't "stick", so it needs to be re-set every time > you > > use > > "vipw". > > > > Avoid the /sysinstall version of mgetty at all costs ... its TOTALLY > broken > > !!! > > As far as I can tell the only possible way to getmgetty working is by > > compiling from source, and thats another challenge given that the info > > provided isn't as helpful as it could be ..... my advice for what its > worth > > is to stick with the man ppp / getty / method . > > > > Now for apache ...... it probably wins the prize for the most poorly > > documented application ever. There is virtually no attempt at > explanation > > anywhere for basic apache setup .... the apache homepage isutterly > useless, > > likewise the various man ages. Thankfully I've always got it running > in > > basic form (ie without php etc) straight from sysinstall. The main > problem > > I've struck is with inability to find the pages I've put in the proper > > location (at least "proper" according to pppd.conf). I now know that > was > > because of some symbolic links which I inadvertently broke whilst > copying > > pages into the default location. I haven't messed around with this > stuff for > > a while, but I recall reading about many others having similar > problems as I > > did with "page not found" type errors, and invariably the cause was > the > > broken links. As I recall, the guts of the issue is that the pages > aren't > > where they are supposed to be according to pppd.conf ..... they are > > somewhere weird with (hopefully) a link between where pppd.conf thinks > they > > are & where they REALLY are !!! If you don't know exactly what you are > on > > about when you start replacing the dummy page with your own content > you > > could easily end up with the same problem, so be VERY careful here :) > Other > > than that its fairly straightforward until you get into linking apache > with > > a database ... the apparent favourite method (PHP) is another > contender for > > the worst documentation on the planet .... I'm getting infinitely > better > > results with solutions like CGI / C++ / Java ... at least there's > a > > bunch of decent docs for those. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "leegold" <goldtech@worldpost.com> > > To: <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> > > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 10:39 AM > > Subject: classic newbie inquiry > > > > > > > could anyone direct me to very basic how-to's on stting up FreeBSD > to > > > answer the phone and being an internet server. I have never done > this I > > > admit - and want to learn how. Maybe just put a few html pages on it > to > > > start. > > > > > > Where do i start?, what links would explain on basic level? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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