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Date:      Sat, 2 Jul 2011 14:29:06 -1000
From:      Kevin Oberman <kob6558@gmail.com>
To:        Zoran Kolic <zkolic@sbb.rs>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: dell latitude 13
Message-ID:  <CAN6yY1vN8f13X1BygNoKnbscSQ79j=kU1=KfVa9S1tQH7A5MVQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Jul 2, 2011 4:16 AM, "Zoran Kolic" <zkolic@sbb.rs> wrote:
>
> Thanks for answering my question.
>
> > Since the Intel chip is also still unsupported by FreeBSD, you will be
> > limited to VEDA support which is very limited.
>
> I found that dell sells ubuntu on mentioned laptop in some parts
> of the globe. Further, my old laptop (HP nx9020) has intel chip
> and works under intel driver. I need simple 2d, no frills. Does
> newer chip run for plain graphics at all? No acceleration? Fine.

Linux has the required GEM/KMS support, but FreeBSD does not. It is being
worked on, but I don't think it's near ready.

> I don't use it neither on my NVIDIA GeForce 6200 card with "nv"
> driver.

The Optimus is a GPU designed in conjunction with Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs
which have integrated Intel 5000 graphics. Optimus acts as an external
accelerator using the Intel frame buffer. It will not work with any NVIDIA
driver; nv, the NVIDIA binary driver, or the nouveau driver. NVIDIA has been
clear that there is no plan to ever support Optimus on non-Windows systems.

> > For laptops you may check the following site :
> > http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/
>
> Old and no newer machines on the site.
>
> > Also check FreeBSD Hardware lists such as
> >
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/8.2-RELEASE/HARDWARE.HTM
>
> Intel 5100 wifi should work with "device iwn5000fw" or "5150"?
>
> > It is NOT possible to know in advance without any prior knowledge
whether a
> > computer is working with FreeDOS will work with FreeBSD because these
are
> > very different systems .
>
> It is sold with freedos to be cheap enough. I appreciate that.
>
> > The producer/seller can install FreeBSD or Linux without cost
>
> Not where I live. When I bought my previous laptop, live cd was the
> guide if it worked at all. It is a matter of "buy it as it is" now.
> More, no cd on latitude 13, which is fine, since it keeps it at
> 3 lb.
>
> My two fears are acpi and graphics 4500mhd. I found links that show
> 4500 supported.
>
http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/subnotebooks-once-again-td4197868.html
> If the list thinks I should wait, it is a metter of adding the code
> as on this link:
> http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-21852.html

If it is a 4500, you will have at least minimal graphics support. You should
be able to disable the NVIDIA daughter card on BIOS, but I would not want to
guarantee it.

Good luck!

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Retired
kob6558@gmail.com



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