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Date:      Sat, 8 Jun 2013 20:43:35 -0400
From:      Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Jimmy <jimmy.kelley@charter.net>
Subject:   Re: 10-CURRENT i386 memstick snapshots broken?
Message-ID:  <20130609004335.GF13292@glenbarber.us>
In-Reply-To: <51B38398.8030509@freebsd.org>
References:  <20130607205129.GA1103@jmobile.jimmy.net> <20130607212256.GG38117@glenbarber.us> <20130608173411.GD13292@glenbarber.us> <926EF579-8AC9-4A98-8A81-4E978A627199@kientzle.com> <20130608191722.GE13292@glenbarber.us> <51B38398.8030509@freebsd.org>

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On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 02:18:48PM -0500, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> On 06/08/13 14:17, Glen Barber wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 12:10:16PM -0700, Tim Kientzle wrote:
> >> On Jun 8, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Glen Barber wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 05:22:56PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote:
> >>>>> Has anyone else tried the i386 memstick and having the same problem?
> >>>>>
> >>>> Hmm.  Thanks for the report.  I'll take a look at the logs for i386,=
 but
> >>>> they are generated the same way as the amd64, so in theory should not
> >>>> have any noticable difference.
> >>>>
> >>> For amd64 and i386, native binaries are built, and installed into
> >>> scratch directories; for powerpc and powerpc64, I just use the amd64
> >>> binaries, because I cannot directly use the chroot binaries for
> >>> non-native architecture.
> >>>
> >>> The scripts chroot into the scratch directories, and run the "real"
> >>> release builds.
> >> Have you tried using Crochet for this sort of thing?
> >>
> >> Since it was designed from the ground up for cross-building
> >> bootable images, it should avoid these issues.
> >>
> > I have not, primarily because I was not aware of crochet when
> > I originally started this.  Although, by using the release stuff from
> > the base system, we do get a weekly run-test of the 'make release' bits
> > in head/ and stable/9/, so in theory, there would be no surprises when
> > it is -RELEASE time.
> >
> >> The only fundamental limit right now is that Crochet uses
> >> the host system to build the UFS filesystems, so it can't
> >> build big-endian MIPS images on i386, for example.
> >>
> >>
> > Yes, I have this same issue with sparc64.
> >
>=20
> Why not use makefs? It can build cross-endian UFS images.

The scripts do (as far as I recall for sparc64) use makefs, but a port
is needed to create the sparc-capable ISO image.

Glen


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