Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:00:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca> To: Paul van der Zwan <paulz@vanderzwan.org> Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 NFSv4 client attribute cache not caching ? Message-ID: <678464111.812434.1365908434250.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> In-Reply-To: <495AEA10-9B8F-4A03-B706-79BF43539482@vanderzwan.org>
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Paul van der Zwan wrote:
> On 12 Apr 2013, at 16:28 , Paul van der Zwan <paulz@vanderzwan.org>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I am running a few VirtualBox VMs with 9.1 on my OpenIndiana server
> > and I noticed that make buildworld seem to take much longer
> > when the clients mount /usr/src and /usr/obj over NFS V4 than when
> > they use V3.
> > Unfortunately I have to use V4 as a buildworld on V3 hangs the
> > server completely...
> > I noticed the number of PUTFH/GETATTR/GETFH calls in in the order of
> > a few thousand per second
> > and if I snoop the traffic I see the same filenames appear over and
> > over again.
> > It looks like the client is not caching anything at all and using a
> > server request everytime.
> > I use the default mount options:
> > 192.168.178.24:/data/ports on /usr/ports (nfs, nfsv4acls)
> > 192.168.178.24:/data/src on /usr/src (nfs, nfsv4acls)
> > 192.168.178.24:/data/obj on /usr/obj (nfs, nfsv4acls)
> >
> >
>
> I had a look with dtrace
> $ sudo dtrace -n '::getattr:start { @[stack()]=count();}'
> and it seems the vast majority of the calls to getattr are from open()
> and close() system calls.:
> kernel`newnfs_request+0x631
> kernel`nfscl_request+0x75
> kernel`nfsrpc_getattr+0xbe
> kernel`nfs_getattr+0x280
> kernel`VOP_GETATTR_APV+0x74
> kernel`nfs_lookup+0x3cc
> kernel`VOP_LOOKUP_APV+0x74
> kernel`lookup+0x69e
> kernel`namei+0x6df
> kernel`kern_execve+0x47a
> kernel`sys_execve+0x43
> kernel`amd64_syscall+0x3bf
> kernel`0xffffffff80784947
> 26
>
> kernel`newnfs_request+0x631
> kernel`nfscl_request+0x75
> kernel`nfsrpc_getattr+0xbe
> kernel`nfs_close+0x3e9
> kernel`VOP_CLOSE_APV+0x74
> kernel`kern_execve+0x15c5
> kernel`sys_execve+0x43
> kernel`amd64_syscall+0x3bf
> kernel`0xffffffff80784947
> 26
>
> kernel`newnfs_request+0x631
> kernel`nfscl_request+0x75
> kernel`nfsrpc_getattr+0xbe
> kernel`nfs_getattr+0x280
> kernel`VOP_GETATTR_APV+0x74
> kernel`nfs_lookup+0x3cc
> kernel`VOP_LOOKUP_APV+0x74
> kernel`lookup+0x69e
> kernel`namei+0x6df
> kernel`vn_open_cred+0x330
> kernel`vn_open+0x1c
> kernel`kern_openat+0x207
> kernel`kern_open+0x19
> kernel`sys_open+0x18
> kernel`amd64_syscall+0x3bf
> kernel`0xffffffff80784947
> 2512
>
> kernel`newnfs_request+0x631
> kernel`nfscl_request+0x75
> kernel`nfsrpc_getattr+0xbe
> kernel`nfs_close+0x3e9
> kernel`VOP_CLOSE_APV+0x74
> kernel`vn_close+0xee
> kernel`vn_closefile+0xff
> kernel`_fdrop+0x3a
> kernel`closef+0x332
> kernel`kern_close+0x183
> kernel`sys_close+0xb
> kernel`amd64_syscall+0x3bf
> kernel`0xffffffff80784947
> 2530
>
> I had a look at the source of nfs_close and could not find a call to
> nfsrpc_getattr, and I am wondering why close would be calling getattr
> anyway.
> If the file is closed what do we care about it's attributes....
>
Here are some random statements w.r.t. NFSv3 vs NFSv4 that might help
with an understanding of what is going on. I do address the specific
case of nfs_close() towards the end. (It is kinda long winded, but I
threw out eveything I could think of..)
NFSv3 doesn't have any open/close RPC, but NFSv4 does have Open and
Close operations.
In NFSv3, each RPC is defined and usually includes attributes for files
before and after the operation (implicit getattrs not counted in the RPC
counts reported by nfsstat).
For NFSv4, every RPC is a compound built up of a list of Operations like
Getattr. Since the NFSv4 server doesn't know what the compound is doing,
nfsstat reports the counts of Operations for the NFSv4 server, so the counts
will be much higher than with NFSv3, but do not reflect the number of RPCs being done.
To get NFSv4 nfsstat output that can be compared to NFSv3, you need to
do the command on the client(s) and it still is only roughly the same.
(I just realized this should be documented in man nfsstat.)
For the FreeBSD NFSv4 client, the compounds include Getattr operations
similar to what NFSv3 does. It doesn't do a Getattr on the directory
for Lookup, because that would have made the compound much more complex.
I don't think this will have a significant performance impact, but will
result in some additional Getattr RPCs.
I suspect the slowness is caused by the extra overhead of doing the
Open/Close operations against the server. The only way to avoid doing
these against the server for NFSv4 is to enable delegations in both
client and server. How to do this is documented in "man nfsv4". Basically
starting up the nfscbd in the client and setting:
vfs.nfsd.issue_delegations=1
in the server.
Specifically for nfs_close(), the attributes (modify time)
is used for what is called "close to open consistency". This can be
disabled by the "nocto" mount option, if you don't need it for your
build environment. (You only need it if one client is writing a file
and then another client is reading the same file.)
Both the attribute caching and close to open consistency algorithms
in the client are essentially the same for NFSv3 vs NFSv4.
The NFSv4 Close operation(s) are actually done when the v_usecount for
the vnode goes to 0, since mmap'd files can do I/O on pages after
the close syscall. As such, they are only loosely related to the close
syscall. They are actually closing Windows style Openlock(s).
You mention that you see the same file over and over in a packet trace.
You don't give specifics, but I'd suggest that you look at both NFSv3
and NFSv4 for this (and file names are in lookups, not getattrs).
I'd suggest you try enabling delegations in both client and server, plus
trying the "nocto" mount option and see if that helps.
rick
>
> Paul
>
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