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Date:      Sat, 18 Mar 2023 16:50:29 +0100
From:      Chargen <chargen@gmail.com>
To:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
Cc:        Colin Percival <cperciva@freebsd.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?T=C4=B3l_Coosemans?= <tijl@freebsd.org>,  Current FreeBSD <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>,  FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: I just updated to main-n261544-cee09bda03c8 based (via source) and now /etc/machine-id and /var/db/machine-id disagree ; more
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oh, just timekeeping && tell me that uniqueid is oracled with /dev/random
Well it's not that there are Great many things depending on
synchronizing Jit, wit,NTP cloudcovered Just in case, anything can happen
to stratum0 and however unlikely it seems, there is a future imagined for
it, that has a protocollair White Rabbit  node to node PTP for QKD
whatever, I don't use the Q-word that often until the anticipated phenomena
is witnessed. Till then none time progressing in any base will not leave
this orbit from a QKD critical node topology. At least Not that wabbit, if
it's to me.  In the future, satellite nodes will have a passive addressing
modes, it's covered in a transform, so many grants, ip

Thanks,
   _  _
  (_)(_)
   (,,)
   =3D()=3D
  ((__)\
   _|L\_______/
Save The Math Lab Rats


On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 2:25=E2=80=AFAM Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wr=
ote:

> The 13.1-RELEASE (snapshot) to 13.2-RC3 freebsd-update's
> upgrade sequence did not go well relative to my being
> prompted to do the right thing to establish /etc/machine-id .
> After the last reboot (kernel upgrade, presumably) it had me
> continue with. . .
>
> # /usr/sbin/freebsd-update install
> src component not installed, skipped
> ZFS filesystem version: 5
> ZFS storage pool version: features support (5000)
> Installing updates...
> install: ///var/db/etcupdate/current/etc/rc.d/growfs_fstab: No such file
> or directory
> install: ///var/db/etcupdate/current/etc/rc.d/var_run: No such file or
> directory
> install: ///var/db/etcupdate/current/etc/rc.d/zpoolreguid: No such file o=
r
> directory
> Scanning //usr/share/certs/blacklisted for certificates...
> Scanning //usr/share/certs/trusted for certificates...
> rmdir: ///usr/tests/usr.bin/timeout: Directory not empty
>  done.
> root@generic:~ # cat /etc/hostid /etc/mach*
> cat: No match.
>
> It did not indicate the need for another reboot to
> end up with a /etc/machine-id file.
>
> I tried "shutdown -r now" anyway. It did establish
> an /etc/machine-id file during the reboot:
>
> # ls  -Tld /etc/hostid /etc/machine-id
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  37 May 12 08:46:21 2022 /etc/hostid
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  33 May 13 09:46:56 2022 /etc/machine-id
>
> So the basic implementation is operational but just
> lacks an indication of the need to reboot again.
>
> The date/time is because it is a RPi4B context (no
> time of its own) and time is not automatically being
> established via ntp, apparently. (I did not make such
> adjustments to the snapshot before starting the
> upgrade.)
>
> I do not know if any of the "install: ///var/db/etcupdate/ . . . "
> lines or the rmdir line are important.
>
> It earlier indicated 5708 patches were fetched and that 377
> files were as well.
>
> =3D=3D=3D
> Mark Millard
> marklmi at yahoo.com
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_sign=
ature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"monospace">oh, just =
timekeeping &amp;&amp; tell me that uniqueid is oracled with /dev/random <b=
r>Well it&#39;s not that there are Great many things depending on synchroni=
zing=C2=A0Jit, wit,NTP cloudcovered=C2=A0Just in case, anything can happen =
to stratum0 and however unlikely it seems, there is a future imagined for i=
t, that has a=C2=A0</font>protocollair=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-family:mono=
space">White Rabbit </span><span style=3D"font-family:monospace">=C2=A0node=
 to node PTP for QKD whatever, I don&#39;t use the Q-word that often until =
the anticipated phenomena is witnessed. </span>Till<span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:monospace"> </span>then none<span style=3D"font-family:monospace"> time =
progressing in any base will not leave this orbit from a QKD critical node =
topology. At least Not that wabbit, if it&#39;s to me.=C2=A0 In the future,=
 satellite nodes will have a passive addressing modes, it&#39;s covered=C2=
=A0in a transform, so many grants, ip=C2=A0</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><f=
ont face=3D"monospace"><br></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"mono=
space"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0_=C2=A0 =
_</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 (_)(_)</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0(,=
,)</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D()=3D</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0=
 ((__)\</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0_|L\_______/</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Save The Math Lab Rats</div></font></div></div></div></div><br></div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 2:25=E2=80=AFAM Mark Millard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mar=
klmi@yahoo.com">marklmi@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The 13.1-RELEASE (snapshot) to 13.2-RC3 fr=
eebsd-update&#39;s<br>
upgrade sequence did not go well relative to my being<br>
prompted to do the right thing to establish /etc/machine-id .<br>
After the last reboot (kernel upgrade, presumably) it had me<br>
continue with. . .<br>
<br>
# /usr/sbin/freebsd-update install<br>
src component not installed, skipped<br>
ZFS filesystem version: 5<br>
ZFS storage pool version: features support (5000)<br>
Installing updates...<br>
install: ///var/db/etcupdate/current/etc/rc.d/growfs_fstab: No such file or=
 directory<br>
install: ///var/db/etcupdate/current/etc/rc.d/var_run: No such file or dire=
ctory<br>
install: ///var/db/etcupdate/current/etc/rc.d/zpoolreguid: No such file or =
directory<br>
Scanning //usr/share/certs/blacklisted for certificates...<br>
Scanning //usr/share/certs/trusted for certificates...<br>
rmdir: ///usr/tests/usr.bin/timeout: Directory not empty<br>
=C2=A0done.<br>
root@generic:~ # cat /etc/hostid /etc/mach*<br>
cat: No match.<br>
<br>
It did not indicate the need for another reboot to<br>
end up with a /etc/machine-id file.<br>
<br>
I tried &quot;shutdown -r now&quot; anyway. It did establish<br>
an /etc/machine-id file during the reboot:<br>
<br>
# ls=C2=A0 -Tld /etc/hostid /etc/machine-id <br>
-rw-r--r--=C2=A0 1 root=C2=A0 wheel=C2=A0 37 May 12 08:46:21 2022 /etc/host=
id<br>
-rw-r--r--=C2=A0 1 root=C2=A0 wheel=C2=A0 33 May 13 09:46:56 2022 /etc/mach=
ine-id<br>
<br>
So the basic implementation is operational but just<br>
lacks an indication of the need to reboot again.<br>
<br>
The date/time is because it is a RPi4B context (no<br>
time of its own) and time is not automatically being<br>
established via ntp, apparently. (I did not make such<br>
adjustments to the snapshot before starting the<br>
upgrade.)<br>
<br>
I do not know if any of the &quot;install: ///var/db/etcupdate/ . . . &quot=
;<br>
lines or the rmdir line are important.<br>
<br>
It earlier indicated 5708 patches were fetched and that 377<br>
files were as well.<br>
<br>
=3D=3D=3D<br>
Mark Millard<br>
marklmi at <a href=3D"http://yahoo.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">yahoo.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>

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