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Date:      Thu, 2 May 2024 10:13:56 +0200
From:      Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
To:        Yusuf Khan <yusisamerican@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org,  freebsd-hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>,  FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>,  FreeBSD virtualization <freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: How to use Virtio GPU on FreeBSD as guest OS.
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[-- Attachment #1 --]
 What I find strange is that this configuration works on Windows 11 to
virtualize FreeBSD using -device vmware-svga :

I:\OS\vms\qemu\qemu-system-x86_64w.exe -accel whpx -machine q35 -cpu
kvm64,hv_relaxed,hv_time,hv_synic -m 8G -device
vmware-svga,id=video0,vgamem_mb=16,bus=pcie.0,addr=0x1 -audiodev
dsound,id=snd0 -device ich9-intel-hda -device hda-duplex,audiodev=snd0 -hda
"I:\Backup\FreeBSD\FreeBSD-140-zfs.img" -device hda-duplex,audiodev=snd0
-drive file=\\.\PhysicalDrive4 -drive file=\\.\PhysicalDrive5 -drive
file=\\.\PhysicalDrive6 -drive file=\\.\PhysicalDrive8 -drive
file=\\.\PhysicalDrive12 -rtc base=localtime -device
usb-ehci,id=usb,bus=pcie.0,addr=0x3 -device usb-tablet -device usb-kbd
-smbios type=2 -nodefaults -netdev
tap,id=mynet0,ifname="OpenVPN-TAP-Windows",script=no,downscript=no -device
e1000,netdev=mynet0,mac=52:55:00:d1:55:01 -device ich9-ahci,id=sata -bios
"I:\OS\vms\qemu\OVMF_combined.fd"

One can think that it will work even on Linux for the same setup (qemu +
hyper-V on Windows 11),but it does not. I'm experiencing a lot of problems
when I add -accel whpx on a Debian VM. These problems go away if I remove
it.

Adding " -device vmware-svga,id=video0,vgamem_mb=16,bus=pcie.0,addr=0x1" to
the qemu / Debian parameters will cause it won't boot. So,this :


I:\OS\vms>I:\OS\vms\qemu\qemu-system-x86_64.exe -machine q35 -cpu
kvm64,hv_relaxed,hv_time,hv_synic -m 8G -device
vmware-svga,id=video0,vgamem_mb=16,bus=pcie.0,addr=0x1 -audiodev
dsound,id=snd0 -device ich9-intel-hda -device hda-duplex,audiodev=snd0 -hda
"I:\Backup\Linux\Debian.img" -drive file=\\.\PhysicalDrive5 -drive
file=\\.\PhysicalDrive6 -drive file=\\.\PhysicalDrive8 -rtc base=localtime
-device usb-ehci,id=usb,bus=pcie.0,addr=0x3 -device usb-tablet -device
usb-kbd -smbios type=2 -nodefaults -netdev user,id=net0 -device
e1000,netdev=net0,id=net0,mac=52:54:00:11:22:33 -device ich9-ahci,id=sata
-bios "I:\OS\vms\qemu\OVMF_combined.fd"


will cause the Debian VM to freeze before reaching the login prompt. I
don't know if Linux has the proper vmware-svga driver,I didn't find it.

Regarding virtualizing Windows 7 on Windows 11 using the same setup,I can't
add -accel whpx and most importantly,what I care more, the -device
vmware-svga does not work. So,in this kind of setup,
*FreeBSD is the winner because it supports everything (hyper-V and the
vmware-svga 3D accelerated device.*


On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 9:41 PM Yusuf Khan <yusisamerican@gmail.com> wrote:

> So your issue is that the performance is worse than Linux?
>
> There is no 3d graphics driver for virtio in mainline drm-kmod but
> https://github.com/freebsd/drm-kmod/pull/119 has
> experimental support, although that PR exists it seems to be
> non-functional with a crash.
>


-- 
Mario.

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<div class="gmail-h7 gmail-bg" role="listitem" aria-expanded="true" tabindex="-1"><div class="gmail-Bk"><div class="gmail-G3 gmail-G2"><div><div id="gmail-:1hj"><div><div class="gmail-adn gmail-ads"><div class="gmail-gs"><div class="gmail-"><div id="gmail-:1im" class="gmail-ii gmail-gt"><div id="gmail-:1il" class="gmail-a3s gmail-aiL"><div dir="ltr"><div>What I find strange is that this configuration works on Windows 11 to virtualize FreeBSD using 
-device vmware-svga :<br></div><div><br></div><div>I:\OS\vms\qemu\qemu-system-x86_64w.exe -accel whpx -machine q35 -cpu kvm64,hv_relaxed,hv_time,hv_synic -m 8G -device vmware-svga,id=video0,vgamem_mb=16,bus=pcie.0,addr=0x1
 -audiodev dsound,id=snd0 -device ich9-intel-hda -device 
hda-duplex,audiodev=snd0 -hda &quot;I:\Backup\FreeBSD\FreeBSD-140-zfs.img&quot;
 -device hda-duplex,audiodev=snd0 -drive file=\\.\PhysicalDrive4 -drive 
file=\\.\PhysicalDrive5 -drive file=\\.\PhysicalDrive6 -drive 
file=\\.\PhysicalDrive8 -drive file=\\.\PhysicalDrive12 -rtc 
base=localtime -device usb-ehci,id=usb,bus=pcie.0,addr=0x3 -device usb-tablet -device usb-kbd -smbios type=2 -nodefaults -netdev tap,id=mynet0,ifname=&quot;OpenVPN-TAP-Windows&quot;,script=no,downscript=no -device e1000,netdev=mynet0,mac=52:55:00:d1:55:01 -device ich9-ahci,id=sata -bios &quot;I:\OS\vms\qemu\OVMF_combined.fd&quot;</div><div><br></div><div>One
 can think that it will work even on Linux for the same setup (qemu + 
hyper-V on Windows 11),but it does not. I&#39;m experiencing a lot of 
problems when I add -accel whpx on a Debian VM. These problems go away 
if I remove it. <br></div><div><br></div><div>
<div>Adding &quot;
 -device vmware-svga,id=video0,vgamem_mb=16,bus=pcie.0,addr=0x1&quot; to the qemu / Debian parameters will cause it won&#39;t boot. So,this :</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I:\OS\vms&gt;I:\OS\vms\qemu\qemu-system-x86_64.exe -machine q35 -cpu kvm64,hv_relaxed,hv_time,hv_synic -m 8G -device vmware-svga,id=video0,vgamem_mb=16,bus=pcie.0,addr=0x1
 -audiodev dsound,id=snd0 -device ich9-intel-hda -device 
hda-duplex,audiodev=snd0 -hda &quot;I:\Backup\Linux\Debian.img&quot; -drive 
file=\\.\PhysicalDrive5 -drive file=\\.\PhysicalDrive6 -drive 
file=\\.\PhysicalDrive8 -rtc base=localtime -device 
usb-ehci,id=usb,bus=pcie.0,addr=0x3 -device usb-tablet -device 
usb-kbd -smbios type=2 -nodefaults -netdev user,id=net0 -device 
e1000,netdev=net0,id=net0,mac=52:54:00:11:22:33 -device ich9-ahci,id=sata -bios &quot;I:\OS\vms\qemu\OVMF_combined.fd&quot;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div></div><div>will
 cause the Debian VM to freeze before reaching the login prompt. I  
don&#39;t know if Linux has the proper vmware-svga driver,I didn&#39;t find it.</div><div><br></div>

</div><div>Regarding virtualizing Windows
 7 on Windows 11 using the same setup,I can&#39;t add -accel whpx and most 
importantly,what I care more, the 
-device vmware-svga does not work. So,in this kind of setup,<b>FreeBSD is 
the winner because it supports everything (hyper-V and the vmware-svga 3D accelerated device.<br></b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><table cellpadding="0" class="gmail-cf gmail-gJ"><tbody><tr class="gmail-acZ"><td class="gmail-gH"><br></td><td class="gmail-gH gmail-acX gmail-bAm" rowspan="2"></td></tr></tbody></table><table cellpadding="0" class="gmail-cf gmail-gJ"><tbody><tr class="gmail-acZ gmail-xD"><td colspan="3"><table cellpadding="0" class="gmail-cf gmail-adz"><tbody><tr><td class="gmail-ady"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 9:41 PM Yusuf Khan &lt;<a href="mailto:yusisamerican@gmail.com">yusisamerican@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">So your issue is that the performance is worse than Linux?<br>
<br>
There is no 3d graphics driver for virtio in mainline drm-kmod but<br>
<a href="https://github.com/freebsd/drm-kmod/pull/119" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/freebsd/drm-kmod/pull/119</a>; has<br>
experimental support, although that PR exists it seems to be<br>
non-functional with a crash.<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Mario.<br></div>

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