Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 03:55:38 +0300 From: Ron Ganzer <ganzman@ganzman.no-ip.org> To: krinklyfig@spymac.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20040718035538.7c9ba88e.ganzman@ganzman.no-ip.org> In-Reply-To: <200407171347.23351.krinklyfig@spymac.com> References: <20040717194809.33690.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> <200407171347.23351.krinklyfig@spymac.com>
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hi, 1. i totaly agree with joshua!!! i used 5 linux distro's and the 3 unix's (just to broaden my distro span) and i fell in love with the daemon!!!!!! freebsd is no linux but compat is quite nice i would recommend you be smarter then i am and run stable (4.9) rather then latest (5.2) 4.9 will give you much more stability and a heck of a learning platform , while 5.2 is abit faster and with more hardware support but it still has issues and you wouldnt wanna get caught up in those. 2. if xfree goes out? ok.....unix(&linux) run a clean kernel to which any new standard will have to comply , so - no wories there!! besides - there was once an os called ........HMM........microsomething and people manage without it aswell :) 3. as for job ......... freeBSD is a VERY popular server platform indeed , HOWEVER getting a job would depend on the country your in! im in israel and (jobwise) freeBSD is hard to come by!(hence my being unemployed at the moment :( ) but there are numerous countries throughout the world in which it is HOT stuff (europe mainly - i think) BTW are there any other israelis here? id like to build up a freeBSD community here! hope that helps, Ron Ganzer On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:47:23 -0700 Joshua Tinnin <krinklyfig@spymac.com> wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > On Saturday 17 July 2004 12:48 pm, Arun Swarup <arunswarup@yahoo.com> wrote: > > hi, > > > > i am considering moving over to FreeBSD from Linux (its too hot > > out there.... esp the M$ bashing) > > Eh ... well, I tend to ignore that when making a decision to use an OS or > other software. My concerns are: does it work? can I hack it for my own > purposes? does it suit my needs? etc. The politics aside from the basics > about open source can distract from the practical uses of the technology. For > instance, Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman tend to disagree on some > fundamental philosophical issues, but it's not as if they haven't helped > create some very useful stuff in the meantime (even if Richard still insists > people call it GNU/Linux). > > > i have a few questions/concerns > > > > 1. I want a usable workstation & i want to prevent > > script-kiddies ripping thru my system. Is OpenBSD necessary? > > Not necessarily. FreeBSD is already very secure, but if you're that concerned, > then I recommend setting up a separate box with OpenBSD to act as a firewall. > Are you in a situation where you need very high security? This is where > OpenBSD excels: security, and your network will be more secure by design if > you do firewalling on its own dedicated machine. Also, OpenBSD's excellent > firewall, pf, has been ported to FreeBSD 5.x. FreeBSD is not as picky about > code improvements (the team at OpenBSD analyzes every line of code before > committing, which does take some time), therefore you're more likely to get a > better all-around workstation with a FreeBSD system than an OpenBSD system, > depending on what you want to do on it. For example, FreeBSD can work on more > hardware than OpenBSD, and you can still use XFree86 or X.org, and whatever > window manager you like (sometimes I prefer using IceWM, and other times I > prefer KDE, so they're both installed and used on my system, and I just > switched from XFree86 to X.org today). Generally, FreeBSD is a server > platform, but its stability and compatibility with Linux makes it a good > workstation choice, as well. I was originally going to set up this box to be > an OpenBSD workstation, not having used *BSD before but wanting a secure > system, but it wouldn't recognize my network card (it's fairly new, but it's > very common). The choice was made for me, but I'm happier for it. In time, > I'm planning on setting up another box to be used as a firewall with OpenBSD. > > > 2. What if x86 goes out-of-fashion? what happens then? > > Should i move to NetBSD? > > What happens? Good question ... However, in such a situation, I doubt that > FreeBSD would just sit on x86 and let it go at that. NetBSD is known for its > wide hardware compatibility, but it trades off stability to accomplish this. > It's great for tricky/odd/old hardware and embedded systems, but it's not so > great as a workstation or for webserving where stability is crucial, IMO. You > should also know that FreeBSD supports SMP and 64-bit CPUs. > > > 3. Will i get a job if i learn FreeBSD & neglect the > > inner-workings of Linux? > > Another good question. Something you might want to consider is that FreeBSD is > very popular as a webserver. It's consistently and often profusely listed in > Netcraft's longest uptime list: > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html > > Hotmail used FreeBSD for a long time, and they may still use it. They don't > like to talk about it much, but it's not a rumor ... > > Anyway, I would consider using FreeBSD to be extending your skillset (but you > should know I've become enamored with FreeBSD since installing it, and so > sometimes I evangelize about it). Since you're coming from Linux, you'll > probably still use a lot of Linux apps on your FreeBSD system, and you'll > likely learn a thing or two about both systems because of it. It's not all > that different - they are, after all, both *nix systems. And you can easily > do a multi-boot system ... well, it depends on some factors, but it's not > difficult. Mine is tri-boot: FreeBSD, Slackware and Win2k. No need to dump > what you have, but I would recommend giving FreeBSD a shot. It may not be the > right workstation OS for you, but there's a good chance you'll come to like > it more than anything you've used so far ... ah, see, there's that > evangelizing coming through ;) > > - jt > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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