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Date:      Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:41:25 PDT
From:      "Some Person" <ntvsunix@hotmail.com>
To:        jswarner@uswest.net
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD at work
Message-ID:  <20000619054125.98226.qmail@hotmail.com>

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I can't say enough how much I totaly agree with you on everything you 
wrote... I think so much the same; you literally took the words right out of 
my mouth! :)

You also gave me some greats ideas and I very much appreciate the time you 
took to write and express the things you did.

Best Regards!


>I work for a company (SMS) http://www.smed.com/ that writes medical 
>software on
>the AS/400 for hospitals.  Which, incidentally, will be purchased by 
>Siemens
>Corp. http://www.siemens.de/en2/html/ by the end of this month.  I'm an
>Operations Technical Analyst and have worked in the tech dept. for the last 
>3
>years.  My main responsibilities are AS/400 administration, LAN 
>administration
>and special projects.  I've used Linux, mostly Caldera & Red Hat, for the 
>last 2
>years and belong to a local linux users group (LUG).  Wes Peters was the 
>main
>influence for me switching to FreeBSD.  He came to one of the LUG meetings 
>and
>did an excellent presentation on FreeBSD and tossed new CD ROM sets of 
>FreeBSD
>3.4 into the crowd.  I was lucky to have been paying attention and caught 
>one!
>Since I've started using FreeBSD, I haven't looked back either. I'm not 
>trying
>to say anything derogatory about Linux either.  I'm very grateful for the
>exposure to Unix that I got from using Linux.  For me, Linux provided the
>necessary background/experience to allow me to make the transition to 
>FreeBSD.
>Everything about FreeBSD just makes more sense to me and seems to be 
>organized
>into a more logical order.  Each day I work on the PC I've installed 
>FreeBSD on,
>I find something new that is built into the system, which impresses me.  I 
>could
>list those things here but this response is going to be long enough!  8^)  
>Ok,
>I'll mention a couple..I like how easy it is to load software/updates and 
>how
>easy it is to compile the kernel.
>
>     The primary OS of choice in our shop is WIN NT 4.0 and IBM OS/400 
>(V4R4) and
>like you, having been struggling with finding ways to impress upon 
>management
>and the like, how powerful, cost effective and useful an OS like FreeBSD 
>would
>be to utilize.  So far, the best way I've seen is to demonstrate it's 
>abilities
>in a more tangible manner, like setting up and demonstrating a web server 
>or
>demonstrating it's network analysis capabilities with programs like TCPDUMP 
>or
>Ethereal.  Our head LAN administrator wanted a good LAN sniffer to trace
>bottlenecks on our LAN/WAN and couldn't convince management to purchase a
>sniffer or good sniffing software that would run on NT.  I was able to show
>him/them that we already had a solution with FreeBSD.  As a result, they 
>were
>pretty impressed.
>
>     One of my managers made a valid point when he said that having only 
>one or
>two people experienced with using FreeBSD or Linux won't work but if we get 
>half
>the department trained on it, then we would be in a better position to use 
>it
>and integrate it into our network structure more.
>
>     I recently had someone on the linux-advocacy newsgroup tell me he 
>thought I
>was into "silly stuff" for trying to implement an OS like FreeBSD or Linux 
>where
>I work.  He said that it won't be cost effective because it would be too
>expensive to replace OS' like NT or OS/400 with Linux or FreeBSD.  He 
>hinted
>that it wouldn't make sense to replace technology already in place that 
>works.
>I feel he misinterpreted my intentions.  My goal isn't to replace existing
>technology.  My goal is to find and utilize technology that works!  And 
>FreeBSD
>certainly fits the bill.
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > Unfortunatly, I've run in many many times that FreeBSD could have been 
>used
> > in replace of NT for our clients, much better, much faster, more 
>reliable,
> > much more powerful, more granular in that it gives so much more control 
>over
> > everything and anything, cheaper and the list just goes on and on...
> > Only reason I don't get to actually implement this type thing is that 
>these
> > seniors have no idea how to use FreeBSD and literally have no concept on 
>how
> > it can outbeat MS Windows XX/XXXX in just about any area!
> > It really bothers me!
> > Any suggestions on how I can actually give them a better idea what it 
>can
> > really do and maybe the chance to atleast give it a try. After all, it's
> > 100% free!!! This could save my company, as well as our clients lots of
> > money!!! Ahhh, drives me nuts thinking of it...
> >
> > >     Just thought I'd pass on the news that FreeBSD had it's debut and
> > >was put into action today where I work.   As I said in a previous 
>email,
> > >I installed FreeBSD 3.4 on a Compaq Deskpro 2000 (266mhz) machine the
> > >other day and the install went without a hitch.  I gave it a dedicated
> > >IP address and got an Apache v1.3 web server going and an FTP server.
> > >I've been tasked with managing our local intranet and plan on using the
> > >FreeBSD machine as a test bed for comparing cost, stability and
> > >performance to other web servers on different platforms like NT and
> > >OS/400.  I think it's already won the cost comparison.  I created a 
>home
> > >page and linked it to all of our Lotus Notes databases, that are
> > >currently running on an AS/400 (V4R4) Domino Server.  I couldn't 
>believe
> > >the difference in speed!  Accessing the databases through my Apache
> > >server is a lot faster than using the notes client!  The pages look a
> > >lot better in HTML than the old boring flat database style you see when
> > >using the notes client.  Anyway, I gave my managers a demonstration and
> > >they were pretty impressed.  I think this is just the beginning.  I
> > >don't think I'm going to have a problem of finding ways to justify the
> > >use of FreeBSD where I work anymore.  FreeBSD rocks!!  8^)
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity, and I'm
> > >                                 not sure about the former.
> > >                                      -Albert Einstein.
> > >                                         1879-1955.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity, and I'm
>                                 not sure about the former.
>                                      -Albert Einstein.
>                                         1879-1955.
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