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Date:      Wed, 09 Jul 1997 16:00:28 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        "Gary D. Margiotta" <gary@tbe.net>
Cc:        Cliff Addy <fbsdlist@federation.addy.com>, Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: T1 upgrade options? 
Message-ID:  <2735.868489228@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:44:27 EDT." <Pine.BSF.3.95q.970709172542.3136A-100000@lightning.tbe.net> 

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I have to agree that Ciscos are worth the money, if only for all the
little "creature comfort" features in installation and setup you get
which are far more engineer-friendly than anything I've seen with
Livingston.  I worked exclusively with cisco equipment for some time
before finally doing some work for an ISP with a Portmaster PM2r box -
the difference was like night and day and, frankly, the Portmaster's
admin interface is so funky that it made me less chagrined at the
state of our own installation tools.  If a commercial outfit can get
away with that, it leaves hope that our own tools won't be judged too
harshly. :-)

To use a car analogy, Cisco basically produces the Cadillacs of the
router world whereas Livingston makes Yugos and Ascend makes VWs. :-)
Not everyone needs, wants or can afford a Cadillac, but many of those
features are nice to have if you're going to drive a car at all.
Similarly, the "VW" is cheap but of reasonably good quality and the
Yugo, well, you buy one of those when cost is the #1 consideration and
you are resigned to the fact that it'll be no fun to drive and also
perhaps spend some amount of time by the side of the road, waiting for
the tow-truck. :-)

					Jordan





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