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Date:      Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:38:07 +0200
From:      Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
To:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
Cc:        Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org>, Current FreeBSD <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: git: 989c5f6da990 - main - freebsd-update: create deep BEs by default [really about if -r for bectl create should just go away]
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Am 2023-10-12 07:08, schrieb Mark Millard:

> I use the likes of:
> 
> BE                       Active Mountpoint Space Created
> build_area_for-main-CA72 -      -          1.99G 2023-09-20 10:19
> main-CA72                NR     /          4.50G 2023-09-21 10:10
> 
> NAME                                        CANMOUNT  MOUNTPOINT
> zopt0                                       on        /zopt0
> . . .
> zopt0/ROOT                                  on        none
> zopt0/ROOT/build_area_for-main-CA72         noauto    none
> zopt0/ROOT/main-CA72                        noauto    none
> zopt0/poudriere                             on        
> /usr/local/poudriere
> zopt0/poudriere/data                        on        
> /usr/local/poudriere/data
> zopt0/poudriere/data/.m                     on        
> /usr/local/poudriere/data/.m
> zopt0/poudriere/data/cache                  on        
> /usr/local/poudriere/data/cache
> zopt0/poudriere/data/images                 on        
> /usr/local/poudriere/data/images
> zopt0/poudriere/data/logs                   on        
> /usr/local/poudriere/data/logs
> zopt0/poudriere/data/packages               on        
> /usr/local/poudriere/data/packages
> zopt0/poudriere/data/wrkdirs                on        
> /usr/local/poudriere/data/wrkdirs
> zopt0/poudriere/jails                       on        
> /usr/local/poudriere/jails
> zopt0/poudriere/ports                       on        
> /usr/local/poudriere/ports
> zopt0/tmp                                   on        /tmp
> zopt0/usr                                   off       /usr
> zopt0/usr/13_0R-src                         on        /usr/13_0R-src
> zopt0/usr/alt-main-src                      on        /usr/alt-main-src
> zopt0/usr/home                              on        /usr/home
> zopt0/usr/local                             on        /usr/local

[...]

> If such ends up as unsupportable, it will effectively eliminate my
> reason for using bectl (and, so, zfs): the sharing is important to
> my use.

Additionally/complementary to what Kyle said...

The -r option is about
zop0/ROOT/main-CA72
zop0/ROOT/main-CA72/subDS1
zop0/ROOT/main-CA72/subDS2

A shallow clone is only taking zop0/ROOT/main-CA72 into account, while a 
-r clone is also cloning subDS1 and subDS2.

So as Kyle said, your (and my) use case are not affected by this.

Bye,
Alexander.

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