Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 06:46:05 +0300 (MSK) From: "."@babolo.ru To: ashp@unloved.org (Ashley Penney) Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bin/18275: proposed TMPDIR setting and /usr/bin/mkinittmpdir Message-ID: <200202100346.GAA16921@aaz.links.ru> In-Reply-To: <20020210014215.GA10546@labyrinth.cs.rogers.wave.ca> from "Ashley Penney" at "Feb 9, 2 08:42:15 pm"
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Ashley Penney writes:
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 04:07:06AM +0300, "."@babolo.ru said:
> > ashp@FreeBSD.org writes:
> > > Synopsis: proposed TMPDIR setting and /usr/bin/mkinittmpdir
> > >
> > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
> > > State-Changed-By: ashp
> > > State-Changed-When: Sat Feb 9 15:53:58 PST 2002
> > > State-Changed-Why:
> > > While this is a nice utility, I don't believe it will ever make it
> > > into the base system, as it simply makes something slightly easier.
> > >
> > > I've closed the PR, as I feel this is something better used locally
> > > rather than distributed to all FreeBSD users. Keep up the good work
> > > tho'!
> > Sorry, I am sure you are not right.
> > The reason I sent one of 2 coupled utilities for
> > inclusion in base system and another (ports/sysutils/deleted)
> > to ports is that mkinittmpdir is only first step
> > in direction we all need. The second step is to
> > modify /etc/{shrc,profile,csh.*,login.conf} /usr/share/skel/*
> > so on, third - use this functionality in
> > system and ported programs so on.
> > I have no power to promoute this using language
> > (English) I do not know good enough so I wait
> > for another person with good English to
> > do that. Can you?
>
> Hi,
>
> I think the main problem with this utility is the fact that it changes
> an accepted method of performing certain tasks. We need to maintain
> compatability with other UNIXes, and this sometimes hinders us from
> performing certain tasks in a smarter way. While this method of
> handling TMPDIR is nice, it would then create a difference between us
> and the other BSDs. I think the best solution at this point is to
> submit the mkinittmpdir as a port also. Once it's a port, and people
> can experiment with it, the case for including it in the base system
> is likely to be stronger.
>
> However, where possible the new trend seems to be to remove functionality
> from the base system and move it into the ports tree, to help make FreeBSD
> a light and flexible system.
Yes, I understand new trend.
The reason to be in base system is explained
(I try to explain as possible for me) in previous letter.
So, let's this PR be open, and I make port as a second step
in promoution of this direction.
About compatibility.
how compatible jail(1) is?
Or how compatible FreeBSD at all with UNIX v7 ?
Yes, I proposed not so big.
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