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Date:      Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:22:48 +0300
From:      Petri Helenius <pete@he.iki.fi>
To:        Claudio Jeker <cjeker@diehard.n-r-g.com>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeVRRPd project status
Message-ID:  <425D6378.5080108@he.iki.fi>
In-Reply-To: <20050413181931.GA16696@diehard.n-r-g.com>
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Claudio Jeker wrote:

>On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 05:14:52PM +0200, Lars Erik Gullerud wrote:
>  
>
>>On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Charles Swiger <cswiger@mac.com> writes:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>It's dead, I think:  Cisco's lawyers started making predatory noises
>>>>about their "intellectual property".  Some people from NetBSD are
>>>>working on a replacement called CARP, which you might want to check
>>>>out-- it seems that FreeBSD will be picking up support for this soon,
>>>>as well.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>CARP comes from OpenBSD, not NetBSD, and is already in FreeBSD.
>>>      
>>>
>>...and can't safely be deployed in a lot of datacenter scenarios where 
>>the providers gear is running VRRP, since the OpenBSD-folks didn't bother 
>>to read up on how the process of obtaining a protocol number works, and 
>>hence used the one assigned to VRRP after a half-baked attempt at getting 
>>one themselves. Hence making CARP pretty much useless for ISPs, no matter 
>>how good it may or may not be otherwise.
>>
>>    
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>
>This is not true. First of all the "OpenBSD-folks" asked IANA for protocol
>numbers for CARP and pfsync but IANA denied it. The reason was that CARP
>was not developped through an official standards organization.
>
>  
>
Did this recently change since looking at /etc/protocols it does not 
seem to be the case for most of them anyway?

Pete



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