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Date:      Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:44:54 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Jason Stone <jason@shalott.net>
To:        Matt Piechota <piechota@argolis.org>
Cc:        Aragon Gouveia <aragon@phat.za.net>, <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: ssh questions
Message-ID:  <20020612083746.E28555-100000@walter>
In-Reply-To: <20020612105149.M36620-100000@cithaeron.argolis.org>

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> > > This is a rather poorly written expect script that I use to tar up a cvs
> > > tree on a computer in a rather restrictive lab.
> >
> > I haven't been following this thread, but wouldn't key authentication be
> > easier, securer, more reliable?
>
> It uses keys, but the keys have a password on them.  It really isn't all
> that good either way: one way I have passwords laying about, the other I
> have passwordless keys that are nearly as dangerous.

Place restrictions on the keys in the authorized_keys file on the server.
For example, you can set it up such that the key can only be used to copy
one particular file, and can only be used from one well-known client ip
address.  This makes unencrypted keys much safer, and is clearly more
secure than having the unencrypted and unrestricted password in the clear
on the client.

And <insert obligatory topicality note here>.  The openssh-dev list
(openssh-unix-dev@mindrot.org) is probablly a better place for this kind
of discussion.


 -Jason

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