Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:07:39 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> To: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> Cc: Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org>, ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Andreas Nilsson <andrnils@gmail.com>, Navdeep Parhar <nparhar@gmail.com> Subject: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg? Message-ID: <20140717210738.GE28314@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <CAJ-VmomejC3K7hy1DnwXncbY_H13U17gEpezhK5v%2B_KHNPHR=A@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAG=rPVcyqq2072%2BgF_X91BocxykJB6%2BU0cMhaNexxfVFpVqUbA@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-Vmo=p6-7KCL8C09O4dPq04pitW5wDbtsDAyz-u4Qtr7rpRA@mail.gmail.com> <CAGZBXN8-Gq1=w8SBHCw26ZX4a29KHBx%2B4FV9XGK1HJiCOGuJ9A@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-Vmo=8uAXqmX8D%2BoP%2B63dHWVKN6cn8wBH0HNsVmUciNRF1BA@mail.gmail.com> <53C82EC4.8060304@gmail.com> <CAPS9%2BSuswkJNuwhT=o%2B7sBQpbaN0-jhnRK5drugqZw54%2BqzgzA@mail.gmail.com> <20140717205445.GC28314@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <CAJ-VmomejC3K7hy1DnwXncbY_H13U17gEpezhK5v%2B_KHNPHR=A@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 01:57:52PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:54, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar <nparhar@gmail.com> w=
rote:
> >>
> >> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> >> > > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares <amijaresp@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>> Hi!
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
> >> > >>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
> >> > >>> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit=
of a
> >> > >>> problem;
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> No. Please NEVER do that! The user must be able to edit the files=
and
> >> > >> start the service by himself.
> >> > >
> >> > > Cool, so what's the single line command needed to type in to start=
a
> >> > > given package service?
> >> >
> >> > Aren't sysrc(8) and service(8) for this kind of stuff?
> >> >
> >>
> >> They sure are.
> >>
> >> Well, pkg install $service ; sysrc ${service}_enable=3D"YES" would do.
> >> Although some services have different names than the packge, which is =
sort
> >> of annoying.
> >
> > Maybe service needs to be extended (seriously sysrc ${service}_enable=
=3D"YES" is
> > not user friendly) we have service -l that list the services, maybe a s=
ervice
> > ${service} on that create /etc/rc.conf.d/${service} with ${service}_ena=
ble=3D"YES"
> > in it and service ${service} off to remove it
> >
> > maybe service -l could also be extended to show the current status (may=
be with a
> > -v switch)
> >
> > but for sure having the service off by default is a good idea :)
>=20
> Yeah, maybe having it populate an entry of service_enable=3D"NO" for now .
then you need to extend rcng to support /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d so the pac=
kages
can install them without touching base :) and we will need to wait for all
supported FreeBSD version to have the said modification)
>=20
> It's even more unclear-ish - it's not obvious which options control
> services and which ones are configuration things. We don't call it
> service_<xxx>_enable, right?
>=20
imho this is obvious <xxx>_enable =3D=3D control service.
regards,
Bapt
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