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Date:      Fri, 13 Sep 2019 01:42:58 +0200
From:      "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
To:        ctm-users@freebsd.org
Cc:        postmaster@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo now has all delta lists
Message-ID:  <201909122343.x8CNgwm2091270@fire.js.berklix.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message "Mon, 19 Aug 2019 02:02:37 %2B0200." <201908190002.x7J02bFq076051@fire.js.berklix.net>

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Hi, Reference:
> From:		"Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
> Date:		Mon, 19 Aug 2019 02:02:37 +0200

"Julian H. Stacey" wrote:
> Hi CTM users,
> 
> > 	http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo 
> > Now carries all CTM delta mail lists also carried by
> > 	http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo
> 
> mailman.berklix.org delta lists are all tested OK. I switched 
> to use them to maintain my personal copies of freebsd trees.
> 
> lists.freebsd.org delta lists seem OK, though cant be sure of old lists as
> ctm-src-cur@ at least still awaits un-moderating to remove manual approvals.
> 
> > Info: http://ctm.berklix.org/#latest
> 
> Cheers,
> Julian

freebsd.org has still not fixed list[s (*)] ctm-src-cur@ etc since
before Sat, 17 Aug 2019. Delta pieces via ctm-src-cur@freebsd.org
are delayed until moderators@freebsd.org manualy approve.  A sample:

] Your mail to 'ctm-src-cur' with the subject
]     ctm-mail src-cur.14189.gz 1/1
] Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
] The reason it is being held:
]     Post to moderated list

(*) ctm-src-10-fast@ saw the same fault Sun, 25 Aug 2019, Maybe
the fault is still there, as that was our last delta to that stream.

(*) The same fault may or not exist on some other CTM lists, we
won't know unless the generator emits new deltas, (which would only
happen if freebsd.org's svn tree sees new commits to old tags).

(*) I asked for access to CTM lists to check, but was ignored so can't inspect.

I did subscribe the sender address & ask postmaster@freebsd.org to
check it was unmoderated for all CTM lists, but it didn't fix it.

freebsd.org continues to fail, wasting moderators@freebsd.org time & my time.

Fri, 16 Aug 2019 05:33:34 +0200 I announced:
> 	http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo 
> Now carries all CTM delta mail lists also carried by
> 	http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo

One might think "Better to stay with the original lists on FreeBSD",
But not so: The data path was never just on freebsd.org:
  Earlier it was freebsd.org SVN mirror to CTM generator scripts
  on missouri.edu; then back to lists on freebsd.org.
  Now it's freebsd.org SVN mirror to CTM generator on berklix.org;
  Then to both lists, on: berklix.org (OK) & freebsd.org (failing).
  & some freebsd.org lists delay & break

Best migrate your CTM delta subscriptions from freebsd.org to berklix.org

In case of later illness or absence, I could now give a 2nd person
access to manage CTM delta lists. Someone who values CTM & idealy
also familiar with mailman admin.

Cheers,
Julian
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