Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 02:03:46 -0500 From: Jacob Ritorto <jacob.ritorto@gmail.com> To: Torsten Kirschner <torsten.kirschner@gmail.com> Cc: "freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org" <freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: reintro and pkgng aghastness Message-ID: <CAHYQbfCRJ%2BQ7dyoo%2B4Ucz_TREhW5v1OfSL=7%2B3SHG1wFk83BKw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAMPJxLQVsBG9fu610fw9gQj%2BueZDGOzc%2B%2BL_mgRZ3Yj4=Ayk-A@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAHYQbfC6x=gtrtOX75ajQ1d4SgdB3FAi33hzxXrm6c4-1=OjBw@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2BVBNVQ8mpCZY-Or1S2OyvB3nBB=2qJJk1EbcBNy5fK0eMuRDw@mail.gmail.com> <CAHYQbfDbAOhx_m_jOP=s8D=JpO_NmZq=ATEHETZFb_Zcb4mZxg@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2BVBNVTGfskA_Zwf-Ma9iJF5EzRVCBuPt=5L9FQ0ZGcsSMGdeg@mail.gmail.com> <CAHYQbfCdwReUZ7Ms6VrgBcbBMh3Fn1t6o8TgV%2BOYUA6QRqFA3w@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2BVBNVRisvVe=Hm3Pmxvk9zhV2CqRkiaCzJ7kY7R42pQxyU6Tw@mail.gmail.com> <CAHYQbfBU1HxcFWbvWH_7x7Np-7F7VyoZTnsLxVQ2fZf349dFJw@mail.gmail.com> <CAMPJxLRoP2yPfjzsMR2G11Aoekp1q-3qLnH%2BgvTph-HctGOELA@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2BVBNVQ%2BUE34p2MaD%2B0U%2B6dhQEPar55Buec9B7YHrF_kZJoW=g@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2BVBNVSk5cwD%2BDa8a13n2FTXyrdQXaqQ-gS3XPDdCLahrD91LA@mail.gmail.com> <CAHYQbfAkF8aq_tKwmiVfp=9BmTNhp=tOk=T54fjjjO9RM_p_Rg@mail.gmail.com> <CAMPJxLQVsBG9fu610fw9gQj%2BueZDGOzc%2B%2BL_mgRZ3Yj4=Ayk-A@mail.gmail.com>
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oh, believe me, this thing is a penalty, all right. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:31 AM, Torsten Kirschner < torsten.kirschner@gmail.com> wrote: > The 360, if I recall correctly, is the one with very little cache, right? > Way less than the 333 or 4(4|0)0, right? > Not sure that it matters now, but the lack of a proper cache might result > in severe performance penalties. > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Jacob Ritorto <jacob.ritorto@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> hah, awesome. My 360 could reach mind-smashing speeds of, like, 396 or >> something D: >> >> Hmm, those 370-3799s you mentioned are $16 on ebay atm... Tempted.. >> >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:42 PM, zenxyzzy <zenxyzzy@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> https://web.archive.org/web/20150204014108/http://www.ezplanet.net/xwik= i/bin/view/KnowledgeBase/SunUltra5Overclocking >>> >>> --curt >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:29 PM, zenxyzzy <zenxyzzy@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> it also runs the 440 mhz ultrasparc. the specs say 400 is the limit, >>>> but hey, 10% more cpu is there, too. just don't overclock it - I did = fry >>>> one 440 mhz cpu that way. >>>> >>>> --curt >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Torsten Kirschner < >>>> torsten.kirschner@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No, like he wrote, the only reason why the U5 was "limited" to 512 MB >>>>> was that the tall modules wouldn't fit, because the space was occupie= d by >>>>> the floppy drive. >>>>> Low sticks fit nicely under it. There are low profile sticks with 256 >>>>> MB each. >>>>> The U5 runs 1GB RAM exactly like an U10. >>>>> >>>>> Den onsdag 4. februar 2015 skrev Jacob Ritorto < >>>>> jacob.ritorto@gmail.com> f=C3=B8lgende: >>>>> >>>>> really, you found a way to get to 1G? I thought only 512 was possibl= e >>>>>> even >>>>>> with the weird tall sticks? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:53 PM, zenxyzzy <zenxyzzy@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > I've also had luck putting the tall memory modules in an ultra 5, >>>>>> bumping >>>>>> > it to 1G ram. this did take me removing the (quite useless) flopp= y >>>>>> drive. >>>>>> > later, I got some X7039A's, which are low-profile versions. then = I >>>>>> got >>>>>> > room to put another 3.5 inch drive in. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > --curt >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jacob Ritorto < >>>>>> jacob.ritorto@gmail.com> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> hmm, got the 2013 version on CD. It made it pretty far along but >>>>>> crashed >>>>>> >> and burned whilst loading the miniroot, or whatever they call it, >>>>>> to >>>>>> >> ramdisk. Memory's just too darn small. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:11 AM, zenxyzzy <zenxyzzy@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> I've had luck putting a sata to scsi adaptor on a DVD. should b= e >>>>>> able >>>>>> >>> to boot that. also, there's plenty of IDE dvd's around. you'd >>>>>> have to >>>>>> >>> open the ultra 5 up, though :-> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> --curt >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Jacob Ritorto < >>>>>> jacob.ritorto@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>> Was just about to do that - I have it running on my T1000. But >>>>>> >>>> Martin's open source politics scared me a little a few months >>>>>> ago - he >>>>>> >>>> pulled everything OpenSXCE-related from the Internet and there >>>>>> was no >>>>>> >>>> recourse for the OpenSXCE user community. Maybe it's worth >>>>>> another go now >>>>>> >>>> that that appears to be sorted out. Unfortunately there's no >>>>>> way for me to >>>>>> >>>> load the 2014 bits on my Ultra5 as it's a dvd-only release :\ >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> thx >>>>>> >>>> jake >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:41 PM, zenxyzzy <zenxyzzy@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> There's another option that maybe you shouldn't ignore. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> OpenSxce. it's illumos plus a lot of hackery minus a lot of >>>>>> stupidity >>>>>> >>>>> for Sparc. I run it happily on my Sun Blade 1000. modern ZFS >>>>>> and >>>>>> >>>>> everything. >>>>>> >>>>> XVR-1000 support. root on SSD. fan control support - this >>>>>> clinched >>>>>> >>>>> it for me. neither linux or freebsd can turn the freaking fan >>>>>> off or down. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> plus source. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> plus, runs solaris 11 binaries from that "O"ther company. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> get it from opensxce.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> --curt >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Jacob Ritorto < >>>>>> jacob.ritorto@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd been away from FreeBSD for fifteen years, but I'm back >>>>>> and I'm >>>>>> >>>>>> pleased to announce that I'm using a computer that's from >>>>>> around the >>>>>> >>>>>> time I >>>>>> >>>>>> left FreeBSD :) It's a nice little Sun Ultra 5. Bone stock; >>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> >>>>>> even >>>>>> >>>>>> look like the case has ever been open. I recently had to stop >>>>>> using >>>>>> >>>>>> Solaris >>>>>> >>>>>> because they're became evil and Illumos because they're kind >>>>>> of not >>>>>> >>>>>> supporting this hardware anymore. I tried OpenBSD, but its >>>>>> >>>>>> applications >>>>>> >>>>>> just crashed. So here I pragmatically am. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I like FreeBSD. I didn't leave out of disgust or anything; >>>>>> mostly >>>>>> >>>>>> just >>>>>> >>>>>> employment being all-Sun years ago. So it's cool revisiting >>>>>> it and >>>>>> >>>>>> seeing >>>>>> >>>>>> all the changes and all the stayed-the-sames. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm pretty exited about the new FreeBSD pkgng system. I ha= d >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> extreme >>>>>> >>>>>> pleasure of using it whilst installing my SPARC last night >>>>>> (which, >>>>>> >>>>>> unfortunately, took from mid evening until around 4:30 in the >>>>>> >>>>>> morning. (I >>>>>> >>>>>> didn't have any cds or floppies at my disposal, so I instead >>>>>> built the >>>>>> >>>>>> network / diskless system installl on a virtualbox vm on my >>>>>> Mac and >>>>>> >>>>>> installed FreeBSD to the SPARC from there). Good old >>>>>> >>>>>> rarp/boopt/tftp/nfs! >>>>>> >>>>>> Reminded me of Sun Jumpstart! I was really pleased that this >>>>>> way of >>>>>> >>>>>> doing >>>>>> >>>>>> things still works on FreeBSD Truly a slick and smart design= . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But is it true that I can't actually use pkgng on my real >>>>>> computer >>>>>> >>>>>> because It's not a PC? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been looking around the Internet for some hours, now, >>>>>> to no >>>>>> >>>>>> avail. >>>>>> >>>>>> Are there seriously *no* package repos for SPARC? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If that's the case, I'd like to help remedy it. I've read >>>>>> around >>>>>> >>>>>> on how >>>>>> >>>>>> to contribute, but it seems none of what's out there pertains >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>>>>> pkgng for >>>>>> >>>>>> sparc. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let me know if I'm understanding the situation right >>>>>> and how >>>>>> >>>>>> I can >>>>>> >>>>>> help, if help is wanted. I have a lot of SPARCs and they nee= d >>>>>> a >>>>>> >>>>>> trustworthy operating system with software package system tha= t >>>>>> >>>>>> doesn't have >>>>>> >>>>>> to be manually-wrought. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Oh, wow, it just finished its five-plus-hour ports build of >>>>>> freaking >>>>>> >>>>>> tmux!" >>>>>> >>>>>> jake >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>> >>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64 >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>>>>> >>>>>> freebsd-sparc64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64 >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>>>>> freebsd-sparc64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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