Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:46:50 -0700 From: David Greenman <dg@root.com> To: Sung Nae Cho <sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu> Cc: Jason Andresen <jandrese@mitre.org>, Nicolas Grieco <ng@t-online.fr>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market! Message-ID: <20010725164650.H14981@nexus.root.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107251913120.22176-100000@quasar.phys.vt.edu>; from sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu on Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 07:44:32PM -0400 References: <3B5ECC36.47621190@mitre.org> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107251913120.22176-100000@quasar.phys.vt.edu>
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I really think this has gone just about as far outside of our email list charter for freebsd-stable as one can get (without perhaps talking about space aliens). Please either move this to freebsd-chat or stop this thread now. -DG David Greenman Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com Pave the road of life with opportunities. >Don't be embarrassed. Although I'm working on Ph.D. in physics at >Virginia Tech, I hate the f**king school. Don't get me wrong, I like the >physics department and folks in department. But, rest of the school, >I don't give f**k. Virginia Tech is the shittiest school I've ever been >too. This is the school full of dumb f**k Southern bitches and dorky punks, >God only knows how they even got their jobs at Tech, full of bureaucrats who >are only concerend with their image and putting down on Blacks and other >minorities! This is the school still White kids make joke about Blacks >and that happens naturally around here. Thank God at leats Physics and >much of Engineering depts. are evenly composed of scholars from all >over the world; and we don't tolerate such ignorance! Now, you can have >all the pride of this shit hole school yourself. I don't want any of it >and I'm not even proud to be called a Virginia Tech student. I'm only >here because Physics department doesn't tolerate such ignorance. You are >the one that's making me embarrassed by even considering me as a Virginia >Tech student! Please, refer me as someone from Physics department but >don't tie me with the shit hole Virginia Tech. > > >Sung N. Cho, >Dept. of Physics, >Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University. > > >On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Jason Andresen wrote: > >> Sung Nae Cho wrote: >> > >> >> Aarrgh! Must...Resist...Trolling... >> >> Nuts, well I'll make this short: >> >> > >> > I don't know how far this have gone down the road and altered throughout >> > the course. But, I've never said desktops don't need stability. It all >> > started with some faction of FreeBSD users complaining about the default >> > enable of the disk write cache for modern hard drives in FreeBSD 4.x >> > series. My original post was literally responding to them, "Come on! >> > This is 21st Century and hard disks are reliable and we need to take full >> > advantage over those capable devices if FreeBSD's ever going to succeed in >> > desktop market. FreeBSD is no longer for server use only!" Personally, >> > I've been using UDMA capable disks (and, who doesn't these days?) with all >> > the DMA capabilities fully turned on and never had to compromise >> > performance with stability. If you are so worried about UDMA capable >> > disks to not to work as it suppose to, why in the world are you even >> > getting UDMA disk? Jee, lets get real here. Too many of the FreeBSD >> >> Where did this non-sequitor come from? >> >> Current state of FreeBSD: >> >> ATA disks are run at the maximum transfer rate the disk, controller, and >> cable allow. This includes things like UDMA100/66/33. >> Write Caching is enabled by default now. >> Filesystems have the option of running Softupdates, which almost as >> fast and _MUCH_ more reliable than async. >> ATAPI devices (CDROMs mostly) do not use DMA by default because a lot >> of ATAPI devices flat out lie about what they support. This is easily >> tunable if you are _sure_ your ATAPI devices supports DMA. It's just >> common sense. >> >> > Dept. of Physics, >> > Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University. >> >> As a Tech alumni, this embarrasses me. >> >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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