Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:00:30 +0200 From: Jona Joachim <jaj@hcl-club.lu> To: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: "Marcos Biscaysaqu - ThePacific.net" <marcos@tpnet.co.nz>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Atheros Open Hal Message-ID: <20070803150030.01f4d545@spaceman.my.domain> In-Reply-To: <20070802234658.GB2842@soaustin.net> References: <46B14894.8060408@tpnet.co.nz> <20070802235154.3d518c3d@localhost> <20070802234658.GB2842@soaustin.net>
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:46:58 -0500 linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) wrote: > On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:51:54PM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote: > > Quoting from > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/people.html: > > "In order to develop FreeBSD, committers must have the ability to > > openly discuss matters that will be resolved before they are > > publicly announced. Frank discussions of work in progress are not > > suitable for open publication and may harm FreeBSD." > > Of course, the sentence you omitted that precedes the above is: > > "The FreeBSD developers mailing list is for the exclusive use of > FreeBSD committers." > > So you are taking the policy for *one single* private mailing list > and, by removing the context, making it appear that we are in some > way attempting to stifle discussion on the public lists. I reread the sentence twice to make sure I don't change its meaning by putting it out of context. Whether you communicate through one single mailing list, through 100 mailing lists or via snail mail doesn't really change anything. I didn't mean to make it look like a conspiracy. I provided the link so everybody can read the real thing. > The mailing list in question is more often used to hash out > disagreements (technical and otherwise) among developers than to hide > anything. For many people, it would be of little interest. Perhaps it would be good to update the committers guide because it really makes the developers mailing list look like a secret elite group that discusses evil stuff. > If you think that some kind of issue is not being addressed, your best > bet is a post to advocacy@. If you want to work on code, then > hackers@ is probably a better bet. I started the discussion on advocacy@ some time ago but no committers shared their point of view. Regards, Jona
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