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Date:      Thu, 9 Nov 2000 21:04:56 +0100 (CET)
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= <groudier@club-internet.fr>
To:        Paolo Tealdi <tealdi@sb.polito.it>
Cc:        freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Compaq DL370 [long]
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.10.10011092049290.1381-100000@linux.local>
In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001109083543.00a9a6a0@averroe.polito.it>

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I don't know about SMP, but could you please let me know what driver is
attaching your SYMBIOS controller. Could be either `sym' or `ncr', but
they differ regarding parity checking handling.

OTOH, are you sure it is a SCSI parity error that is reported. When using
the `sym' driver, PCI parity errors are also reported.

Now, if this PCI|SCSI parity error is a real parity error, you should,
IMHO, check if NT would not be working for the reason it wouldn't care
about SCSI|PCI parity checking being _actually_ enabled. It may be
unbelievable that COMPAQ is selling hardware that fails parity, but this
should be checked, in my opinion.

Btw, the latest nasty parity problem I have had to work around in `sym'
driver was a PCI parity problem that occurs on some systems using SYMBIOS
PCI-SCSI chips. Latest `sym' driver in -RELENG4 and -current does detect
that, WARN USER ABOUT, and disable PCI parity checking by the master.

  G=E9rard.

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Paolo Tealdi wrote:

> As i already asked in the list, i'm trying to understand if FreeBSD suppo=
rt=20
> the hardware in subject.
> I tried to install FreeBSD on a system at my vendor's home and i found so=
me=20
> interesting (and funny) things.
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> The system was a
> single / double processor 733 MHz
> 128 MB memory
> standard COMPAQ SCSI controller (symbios)
> standard COMPAQ ETHERNET controller
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> S.O. : FBSD 4.1 RELEASE
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> 1) First, i tried to start booting directly from Fbsd CDROM.
> The system seemed to start, system recognized the scsi controller, but=20
> when  checked the hard disk suddendly presented an error (seemed a parity=
=20
> error on SCSI, if i remember well )and the installation program aborted a=
s=20
> it didn't find any disk.
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> 2)consequently I loaded the COMPAQ SYSTEM INSTALLATION CDROM, I configure=
d=20
> the system for an "other operating system" and i tried again to start wit=
h=20
> FreeBSD CDROM. This time all went OK. I installed the system, booted=20
> sometimes and all seemed well (also network controller was found).
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> 3) Unfortunately the hardware the vender gave me was a single processor b=
ut=20
> i would like to buy a double processor system, so the vendor told me that=
=20
> he managed to receive one more and continue the test.And so we did.
>=20
> 4) Yesterday the vendor contacted me the processor was arrived and that i=
=20
> could go to do the final testing, and so i did.
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> 5)The vendor told me that he didn't touched the original system (it is an=
=20
> NT guru and doesn't know ANYTHING about *nix ) and we installed the secon=
d=20
> processor. The system bootstrapped, all seemed to go well, FreeBSD seemed=
=20
> to recognized the second processor (the last thing i did the first time w=
as=20
> to rebuild the kernel with SMP support, and i did it only decommenting th=
e=20
> option SMP , option APIC and default for NPROCS ... copying GENERIC=20
> configuration) but when it tried to load the root partition again i found=
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> the original error (parity on SCSI bus).
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> 6) This time i suggested that there was an hardware problem, so we tried =
to=20
> install NT4 .After one hour of installation (it's not so quick as FBSD) t=
he=20
> NT4 server seemed to be installed OK, without any error ( :-(( ) .
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> 7) So i reinstalled FBSD, after server setup installation with two=20
> processor and again all seemed to go OK. I recompiled the kernel (again=
=20
> decommenting only SMP options) and this time (for three consecutive time =
)=20
> FBSD hung on boot after APIC check, one time messaging that it got an=20
> uninspected interrupt (43) (kernel config defaults are for 25 interrupts)=
=20
> and the others two without any message.
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> 8) I stopped any kernel rebuilding, as i'm not so skilled with SMP=20
> installation.
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> After this (very long) story i'd like to ask :
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> a) All these things are normal for a double processor system ?
> b) Must i continue to try changing parameters in kernel configurations ?
> c) Can be an hardware problem ?
> d) It's normal for COMPAQ hardware ?
> e) There are significant change on 4.2 for SMP that can avoid this proble=
ms ?
> f) Anybody has found similar SCSI and double processor problems with Comp=
aq=20
> or other vendors hardware ?
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> I installed FBSD on a variety of servers ( mostly compatible) but never=
=20
> happened to me these things ... In any case i have never installed a doub=
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> processor system.
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> Sorry for the long story, and for my not so well english. ...
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> Best regards, Paolo Tealdi
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> Ing. Paolo Tealdi         Library & News System Administrator
> Politecnico Torino        Phone : +39-11-5646714 , FAX : +39-11-5646799
> C.so D. degli Abruzzi, 24 - 10129 Torino - ITALY  Email: tealdi@sb.polito=
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