Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:11:25 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola <billf@chimesnet.com> To: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: John Hay <jhay@icomtek.csir.co.za>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com>, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <jruigrok@via-net-works.nl>, Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>, Doug Barton <DougB@gorean.org>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf Message-ID: <20001012151124.H37870@jade.chc-chimes.com> In-Reply-To: <XFMail.001012114713.jhb@FreeBSD.org>; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 11:47:13AM -0700 References: <20001012143936.D37870@jade.chc-chimes.com> <XFMail.001012114713.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
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On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 11:47:13AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote:
> > It's not an overhead thing. I just get this funny feeling when I do ps and see
> > sendmail running all day long. It makes much more sense for a program thats
> > going to run once and do one thing to get run once and not sit in the background.
>
> That's because you don't properly understand what the process is doing.
Don't be a twit[1].
> Does the cron process give you the heebee-jeebies? What about the "scary"
> ones like vmdaemon, pagedaemon, syncer, and swapper? Come on, think with
> your head.
Do any of the above have a history of providing {remote,local} root into machines
that goes back further then before both of us were born? No.
> > Doesn't the word "cron" pop into everyones head when someone says "I'd like
> > to run something once every X timeunits".
>
> Cron has uses for some things, but not for all things. Also, this change is
> much less painless to a) other MTA's, and b) to sysinstall and descedants as
> the only change is to sendmail_flags in rc.conf, rather than having to try
> to automate editing of files.
a) they should provide their own hooks into queueing ($PREFIX/etc/rc.d[2], etc)
b) limitations of our installer shouldn't prevent other subsystems from doing
things right.
--
Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc.
billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org
1. See, I can just flavor my emails with insults too..
2. I don't mind postfix daemons running in the background...
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