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Date:      Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:41:01 -0600 (CST)
From:      Lars Jonas Olsson <jonas@mcs.net>
To:        chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey)
Cc:        jonas@mcs.net, hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: DX4-100 and sig-11's
Message-ID:  <199701231741.LAA20054@Jupiter.Mcs.Net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970123121543.25612B-100000@maryann.eng.umd.edu> from "Chuck Robey" at Jan 23, 97 12:21:59 pm

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 OK, I guess MemTest-86 isn't that great... I pulled one SIMM and it
seems to work now.

Jonas

> 
> On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Lars Jonas Olsson wrote:
> 
> >  I'm testing an older 486DX4-100 computer with FreeBSD. I've run85
> > cycles of memtest-86 on it with no problem, but FreeBSD dies when
> > starting up (after npx probe).
> >  The system has a PVI-486SP3 motherboard, Award BIOS, 3 PCI slots, SiS
> > 85C496 and 85X497 chipset and Intel DX4 A80486DX4100 SK051. The CPU
> > has a "TOUCH H9512" (CPU made before Dec. 1995) sticker on it.  Any
> > ideas? The BIOS will let me choose write-thru or write-back for the
> > caches but no disable. I've tried both options.
> 
> Point 1: There is NO program whatsoever, under any operating system,
> 	 that does an even slightly reliable job of testing memory,
> 	 so disregard the memtest results.
> Point 2: There IS a reliable memory test method, it involved using
> 	 a hardware based memory tester.  Most vendors of memory
> 	 either have one or have access to one, so you have to ask
> 	 them to do your testing.
> Point 3: Unix operating systems (as a class, not just FreeBSD) push
> 	 memory much harder than any dos program, and will easily
> 	 catch problems that are invisible to dos memory checkers.
> Point 4: Altho they _do_ catch memory problems, Unix OSs are miserable
> 	 at telling you _where_ the problem is; see Point 2.
> 
> The FreeBSD OS is solid, so if it's bombing, you have a hardware problem.
> I'm not saying it's memory, perhaps something else is set up wrong.
> 
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