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Date:      Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:28:09 +1000 (EST)
From:      Darren Reed <darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au>
To:        brian@Awfulhak.org (Brian Somers)
Cc:        billf@chc-chimes.com, brian@Awfulhak.org, wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, dcs@newsguy.com, alfred@FreeBSD.org, nate@yogotech.com, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern uipc_socket.c uipc_socket2.c src/sys/sys socket.
Message-ID:  <200006170228.MAA14959@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au>
In-Reply-To: <200006162017.VAA02121@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> from Brian Somers at "Jun 16, 0 09:17:07 pm"

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In some email I received from Brian Somers, sie wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 06:37:48PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote:
> > 
> > > > > If natd had been written in the kernel (which no-one would have objected
> > > > > to), you would have the exact above scenario.
> > > > 
> > > > I would have, strenuously.
> > > 
> > > Is there a big difference between natd and ipnat ?  Or do you object 
> > > to ipnat ?
> > 
> > I was going to mention that, but I don't use ipfilter and hadn't looked
> > to see how application specific ipnat gets.
> 
> I'm no expert with ipnat either - it may be ``cleaner'' than libalias 
> in that it may avoid protocol-specific knowledge (I think you need a 
> plug-in to do active ftp properly for example, and all the other 
> protocols have to be done via a proxy), but then you can argue that 
> NATing is a disgusting hak anyway....

It sure is :-)



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