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Date:      Tue, 31 Mar 2020 15:20:24 -0400
From:      Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org>
To:        Eric Joyner <erj@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, shurd <shurd@freebsd.org>, Drew Gallatin <gallatin@netflix.com>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Issue with epoch_drain_callbacks and unloading iavf(4) [using iflib]
Message-ID:  <20200331192024.GE97238@raichu>
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:14:20PM -0700, Eric Joyner wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> I tried out a kernel with the tip of CURRENT with both D24214 and D24215
> applied, and I still see the problem. As well, after doing a "sysctl
> debug.kdb.enter=1" and viewing the stack trace there for kldunload, it
> appears to be similar to the one I posted in my last post.

Can you show it?  I don't see how it could be the same, since with the
patch we are no longer calling sched_bind() from the epoch scan call
back.

> 
> - Eric
> 
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:19 PM Eric Joyner <erj@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 3:52 PM Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 04:32:40PM -0700, Eric Joyner wrote:
> >> > Mark,
> >> >
> >> > I did get some time to get back and retry this; however your second
> >> patch
> >> > still doesn't solve the problem. Looking into it a bit, it looks like
> >> the
> >> > kldunload process isn't hitting the code you've changed; it's hanging in
> >> > epoch_wait_preempt() in if_detach_internal(), which is immediately
> >> before
> >> > epoch_drain_callbacks().
> >> >
> >> > I did a kernel dump while it was hanging, and this is the backtrace for
> >> the
> >> > kldunload process:
> >>
> >> I see.  I think the callback can be made much simpler and avoid the
> >> problematic sched_bind() calls.  I wrote a patch that allows waiting
> >> threads to lend scheduling priority to a preempted thread blocked in an
> >> epoch section, based on some code I wrote to implement preemptible SMR
> >> sections.  If waiting for a running thread, the callback just spins.
> >>
> >> This might be enough to solve your problem, I posted the two lightly
> >> tested patches here:
> >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D24214
> >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D24215
> >>
> >> If we hit a situation where a reader is preempted and then its CPU is
> >> hogged by a high-priority kernel thread, this still won't be enough, but
> >> I suspect it'll solve your case.  Would you be able to test?
> >>
> >
> > Yeah, I'll try them out.
> >
> >  - Eric
> >



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