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Date:      Tue, 30 May 2000 15:07:54 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Thomas Good <tomg@mailhost.nrnet.org>
To:        David Johnson <djohnson@acuson.com>
Cc:        Doug Young <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Re using a 486
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000530150056.14686B-100000@mailhost.nrnet.org>
In-Reply-To: <3934069B.81AF8A12@acuson.com>

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On Tue, 30 May 2000, David Johnson wrote:

> Doug Young wrote:
> > 
> > Who needs X on  a gateway box ??
> >
> > > I managed to run 2.2.8-stable on an old 486 with 16 Mb of RAM.  However,
> > > it wasn't really faste (with X loaded).  Since you'd like to use it as an
> > > Internet appliance or sort of, I'd definitely recommend to at least
> > > install 64 Mb of RAM and a good video card.
> 
> It might not be exclusively a gateway. A lot of internet appliances are
> for browsing and messaging, not for serving or routing. Some people,
> myself included, only have a single computer. We can't afford dedicated
> firewall boxen If you only have one computer, then your gateway is also
> your desktop is also your development box is also your game machine.
> 
> David

Hey David and Doug,

I just got a pentium 166 w/ 32M RAM for $200 US from a vendor of used
machines.  Check the papers for used boxes.  The pace of technological
change makes good hdwe accessible.  And:  the hdwe is usually well 
supported.  Unlike a buddy of mine who is struggling with an ATI Rage
2000 Expert card - it has 32M of RAM but no official X support.  :-(

BTW, I run 3.4 on an i486 with bad uarts (16450s), very low RAM (12M)
and limited swap due to the small hdd.  I also run X.  It runs ok.
Netscape is a dog on this machine but so what?  I could always get
something faster...if netscape is that important.  Fact is, I like not
throwing out my old machine --- it does its job which is to be a mail
server.  And Doug here helped me get sendmail and ppp happy on it with
his Pedantic FreeBSD page.  

Later gents,
Tom

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