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Date:      Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:23:50 -0800 (PST)
From:      David Wolfskill <dhw@whistle.com>
To:        gary@tbe.net, ingrid@cityscope.net
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Backup server
Message-ID:  <199812162123.NAA15388@pau-amma.whistle.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.981216154651.5195A-100000@electric.tbe.net>

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>Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:53:47 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Gary D. Margiotta" <gary@tbe.net>

>We are looking into the smae thing... I believe we will be using the
>'dump' command for this.  It is my understanding that the commands are
>simple and allow full backups of entire filesystems.

Yes, that is what dump does.

>I believe it uses
>the r* commands, so mamke sure they are enabled, (mostly rcp).  Some
>people are using ssh in place of rsh, that way it is much more secure.

Yes, but I encourage you to see below.

>Do a man of dump, and it is pretty explanatory.

(Except that historically -- not sure about the FreeBSD
implementation(s) -- the relationships among the various metrics that
one might think would affect how much data can actually fit on the
medium of choice -- size & density -- has seemed to have a rather
tenuous attachment to any sort of objective reality.  In other words,
the numbers need to be tweaked to meet one's expectations.)

We have a rather different problem, as far as scope and all:  I'm doing
backups for the engineering net (servers & most of the UNIX workstations)
here at Whistle.

Given that, I'm using "amanda" (it's in the ports, but I built it from
source, since I have a somewhat heterogeneous set of machines, and I
wanted to be sure I was using the same sources for all of them).  It may
be configured (on a per-filesystem basis) to use  "dump" or GNU tar as
the program that does the actual data copying.  This part of amanda runs
on the host that's being backed up (generally; if you get involved in
the SAMBA support, tat's a rather different matter), and sends the
backup image to the amanda server (which spools the image to a "holding
disk" for parallelism and to implement a speed-matching buffer); once
the image has been written to the holding disk, that image is scheduled
for copying to tape.

Amanda uses UDP to accomplish the communication, and need not use the r*
approach.

I've been pretty happy with it so far.

Additional information may be found at http://www.amanda.org/.

david
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David Wolfskill		UNIX System Administrator
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