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Date:      Thu, 19 May 2011 11:29:32 -0400
From:      Oleg Lelchuk <oleglelchuk@gmail.com>
To:        gnome@freebsd.org
Subject:   Fwd: Transforming GNOME Into A Linux-Only Project (link)
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Oleg Lelchuk <oleglelchuk@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Transforming GNOME Into A Linux-Only Project (link)
To: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org>


Well, I can still start gnome-3.0.1 on my freebsd machine, though if I don't
mount procfs, it crashes. I know that procfs is a linux thing.


On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org>wrote:

> On 5/18/11 3:26 PM, Michal Varga wrote:
> > I'll just leave this here as I'm basically speechless, and it's probably
> > not worth commenting anyway.
> >
> > But for those who might be interested and don't necessarily keep up with
> > the latest 'news', clicky:
> >
> > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQ1Nw
>
> GNOME has been heading down this path since 2.0 was released.  It's been
> a slow process, but the decisions that were made around hal, devkit,
> etc. are unmistakable signs that GNOME is abandoning the OSS desktop in
> favor of a Linux desktop.
>
> Is this a bad idea?  Yes and no.  These days, people expect a desktop to
> have a tight OS integration.  They like the ability to have mobility,
> hardware awareness, sexy graphics, etc. as part of their desktop
> experience.  So a desktop can't be completely OS-agnostic.  However,
> what GNOME and fd.o could have been better about is to make truly open,
> well-documented standards so that vendors like Solaris and *BSD could
> plug in bits to provide OS integration.  Say what you will about hal,
> but hal had this.  The udev stuff does not.
>
> To me, GNOME could add OS-level integration and provide clear
> delineation as to what is PI and what is PD.  The PD stuff should have
> open specifications.  That's the OSS model.  But if the GNOME guys want
> to make GNOME into the Linux OS, that's their call.  GNOME 2.x is still
> open.  Perhaps the fork efforts being discussed will take off.
>
> Joe
>
> --
> Joe Marcus Clarke
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