Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:27:33 -0800 From: "Chris Fox (Excell Data Corporation)" <a-chrisf@exchange.microsoft.com> To: <newbies@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: MS panel applets; was: BSD or Linux? Message-ID: <0A0B36F65A314D4AB8D2CF1D1FD835F101405939@df-muttley.dogfood>
next in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C2AAB9.56260880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Murphy [mailto:jfm@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 5:27 PM To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS panel applets; was: BSD or Linux? "Chris Fox (Excell Data Corporation)" <a-chrisf@exchange.microsoft.com> wrote: >>And view the things of course :-) You can launch Word et al from the >command >>line within Windows but doing it from an old fashioned DOS prompt >>won't >get >>you very far. It doesn't truly count as the command line if it needs >>a >GUI >>also running to get any worthwhile results. >Your mailer seems to be wrapping quoted text, adding something called smime.p7s >and removing your contribution. It isn't my mailer, it's my clumsy fingers; I somehow hit send just as I was starting to type. The MIME attachment is an X.509 certificate and should be recognizable to any operating system; I have the same cert installed under Konqueror on three Linux distros and it works there. What I meant to say before I fat-fingered away the email was that it took me about five minutes using BASH before I couldn't stand CMD.EXE anymore. I've known UNIX commandline stuff for years before I used UNIX (we have all those tools on the Windows side, ported by MKS and GNU) but I had never used a real shell, other than ksh for a few months long ago. However: to say that Windows is somehow deficient because there are no commandline tools to do what the GUI tools do is kind of silly. I would never suggest that some version of Linux sucks because it lacks GUI tools to do the configuration; UNIX is first and foremost a commandline environment and Windows is first and foremost a GUI environment. I'm not dancing in the middle of the road here, but I use both, I like both, both have their respective strengths and weaknesses. And someone like me who can use a GUI without a mouse will outperform both the commandline wizard and the grin-and-click GUI user. Really, guys, I didn't sign up for these lists to read most of that slashdot MS-bashing. Yeah I work here, sue me, but I really like BSD and I would rather learn about it without hearing about how much people hate Windows. Give it a rest, and help me become a good BSD citizen, OK? ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C2AAB9.56260880 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIII9zCCAoYw ggHvoAMCAQICAwiunTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADCBkjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdl c3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZUaGF3dGUxHTAbBgNVBAsT FENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzMSgwJgYDVQQDEx9QZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBSU0EgMjAw MC44LjMwMB4XDTAyMTExMTE4NDA1M1oXDTAzMTExMTE4NDA1M1owSDEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3Rl IEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjElMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYWYS1jaHJpc2ZAbWljcm9zb2Z0LmNvbTCB nzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAsneO24rouiNdUsTURWA5TRpJ+d9Wzv8f/7u2S59g 5qd1KurfK1XqHXuupNIccadUlZv9efaREPcgxtg8TASLstdJgI6z7Z0bWjwRNhky+kq43gz/HDRT 5JTSxL2KoUT80TxANq4LQC0oJ+0YYsihFXKS23YCmdwJgvaW5g9K5bsCAwEAAaMzMDEwIQYDVR0R BBowGIEWYS1jaHJpc2ZAbWljcm9zb2Z0LmNvbTAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUA A4GBANAniqUmy2QLaiL9u+L7HeD18WLJwH3q//pdTJU12Yd/e6SO4g4szGIvrYLttDPigj042F1K n4P9gltrKtHvAu0ofjCwr6NurpKefhIZZuHOylV7YG4zDjrdQ06CKQfyLbLAaRg0vXysRJvcIQYf Lz7bNs1cvxg0L5PZZzxdyJFeMIIDLTCCApagAwIBAgIBADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADCB0TELMAkG A1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYD VQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBE aXZpc2lvbjEkMCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcN AQkBFhxwZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTk2MDEwMTAwMDAwMFoXDTIwMTIz MTIzNTk1OVowgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcT CUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmlj YXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFp bCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTCBnzANBgkq hkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEA1GnX1LCUZFtx6UfYDFG26nKRsIRefS0Nj3sS34UldSh0OkIs YyeflXtL734Zhx2G6qPduc6WZBrCFG5ErHzmj+hND3EfQDimAKOHePb5lIZererAXnbr2RSjXW56 fAylS1V/Bhkpf56aJtVquzgkCGqYx7Hao5iR/Xnb5VrEHLkCAwEAAaMTMBEwDwYDVR0TAQH/BAUw AwEB/zANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQDH7JJ+Tvj1lqVnYiqk8E0RYNBvjWBYYawmu1I1XAjPMPuo SpaKH2JCI4wXD/S6ZJwXrEcp352YXtJsYHFcoqzceePnbgBHH7UNKOgCneSa/RP0ptl8sfjcXyMm CZGAc9AUG95DqYMl8uacLxXK/qarigd1iwzdUYRr5PjRzneigTCCAzgwggKhoAMCAQICEGZFcrfM dPXPY3ZFhNAukQEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0 ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcx KDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0 ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxA dGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMDA4MzAwMDAwMDBaFw0wNDA4MjcyMzU5NTlaMIGSMQswCQYDVQQGEwJa QTEVMBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xDzANBgNVBAoTBlRo YXd0ZTEdMBsGA1UECxMUQ2VydGlmaWNhdGUgU2VydmljZXMxKDAmBgNVBAMTH1BlcnNvbmFsIEZy ZWVtYWlsIFJTQSAyMDAwLjguMzAwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAN4zMqZjxwkl RT7SbngnZ4HF2ogZgpcO40QpimM1Km1wPPrcrvfudG8wvDOQf/k0caCjbZjxw0+iZdsN+kvx1t1h pfmFzVWaNRqdknWoJ67Ycvm6AvbXsJHeHOmr4BgDqHxDQlBRh4M88Dm0m1SKE4f/s5udSWYALQmJ 7JRr6aFpAgMBAAGjTjBMMCkGA1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRlTGFiZWwxLTI5 NzASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQAxsUtH XfkBceX1U2xdedY9mMAmE2KBIqcS+CKV6BtJtyd7BDm6/ObyJOuR+r3sDSo491BVqGz3Da1MG7wD 9LXrokefbKIMWI0xQgkRbLAaadErErJAXWr5edDqLiXdiuT82w0fnQLzWtvKPPZE6iZph39Ins6l n+eE2MliYq0FxjGCA2kwggNlAgEBMIGaMIGSMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEVMBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVy biBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xDzANBgNVBAoTBlRoYXd0ZTEdMBsGA1UECxMUQ2Vy dGlmaWNhdGUgU2VydmljZXMxKDAmBgNVBAMTH1BlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIFJTQSAyMDAwLjgu MzACAwiunTAJBgUrDgMCGgUAoIICJDAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3 DQEJBTEPFw0wMjEyMjQwMzI3MzFaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBQ1aQ/zKt9qqcmgAkYU4JiKLps6 DDBnBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xWjBYMAoGCCqGSIb3DQMHMAcGBSsOAwIaMA4GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgIAgDAN BggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBKDAKBggqhkiG9w0CBTCBqwYJKwYB BAGCNxAEMYGdMIGaMIGSMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEVMBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYD VQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xDzANBgNVBAoTBlRoYXd0ZTEdMBsGA1UECxMUQ2VydGlmaWNhdGUgU2Vy dmljZXMxKDAmBgNVBAMTH1BlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIFJTQSAyMDAwLjguMzACAwiunTCBrQYL KoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxgZ2ggZowgZIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUx EjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEPMA0GA1UEChMGVGhhd3RlMR0wGwYDVQQLExRDZXJ0aWZpY2F0 ZSBTZXJ2aWNlczEoMCYGA1UEAxMfUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgUlNBIDIwMDAuOC4zMAIDCK6d MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIGAoWd3k5eNYnxGHAX1sJz9kMpjmZl9VS4sgHZwQIGLe/RWCr94B3zL OL3TbHDHnS1hhAVGTpGa0ApQ7U8AIz/uLuashMhe8VhVs2XJYO7LuOUI5DBwACgnN5acFyq00W1k O/g6/5ExK+SubCRUITV944s6N9sF5u6W1UzmDoALi3UAAAAAAAA= ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C2AAB9.56260880-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?0A0B36F65A314D4AB8D2CF1D1FD835F101405939>