Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:26:44 +1030 From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: current <current@freebsd.org>, Jo Rhett <jrhett@svcolo.com>, stable@freebsd.org, K?vesd?n G?bor <gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu>, Peter Jeremy <PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Update is the binary update solution [Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006] Message-ID: <200512231126.51500.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20051222211730.GK39174@svcolo.com> References: <43A266E5.3080103@samsco.org> <43A4B91D.8040304@samsco.org> <20051222211730.GK39174@svcolo.com>
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--nextPart2057809.76DZ9OFnvS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:47, Jo Rhett wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 06:19:25PM -0700, Scott Long wrote: > > FreeBSD Update was written by, and is continuously maintained by the > > actual FreeBSD Security Officer. It's as official as it gets. If > > the only barrier to acceptance is that it's not distributed from the > > FreeBSD.org domain, then a) that's a silly argument, and b) it's easily > > solvable so long as Colin agrees. > > But FreeBSD Update suffers from all of the same limitations that I've been > describing because of lack of integration with the Core OS. > > 1. modified kernels are foobar > ..yet are practically mandatory on production systems > > 2. modified sources are foobar > ..yet many common production situations require source compilation > options How do you expect these two to be handled in a binary upgrade? I can't see how it's possible.. I don't think integrating it with the core OS (whatever that means) will=20 magically fix this. > 3. FreeBSD Update can't handle updates of jails and other situations that > package systems deal with just fine. Not having run jails I am not very qualified to comment, however, I don't s= ee=20 why you can't just run freebsd update inside your jail(s). If you mean that= =20 it would be good if you could automatically upgrade a large number of jails= =20 and rebuild link farms etc etc.. well sure that isn't supported, but it is = a=20 very difficult problem to solve (I believe). =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart2057809.76DZ9OFnvS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDq0tT5ZPcIHs/zowRArtPAJ4vH5OgQm59MXIs+PEl1PbQpQ2vxACfcmV0 /fp/zYIGzpSSJvIhsIdHhns= =mKZ7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2057809.76DZ9OFnvS--
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