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Date:      Mon, 27 Mar 2017 04:13:16 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Jeffrey Bouquet" <jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com>
To:        "O. Hartmann" <ohartmann@walstatt.org>
Cc:        "freebsd-current" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Howto complete(!) install a world?
Message-ID:  <E1csSaL-0007HS-15@rmmprod05.runbox>
In-Reply-To: <20170327101029.1a372c9d@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de>

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On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 10:10:29 +0200, "O. Hartmann" <ohartmann@walstatt.org> =
wrote:

> After a crash in which repeatedly portions of the base tree of FreeBSD has
> nullified on a SSD system "disk" (UFS), I had to save and repair on Frida=
y,
> 24th March anno 2017 the broken infrastructure by copying (via pax -rw -p=
 e)
> the binaries from the recent USB (memstick) image of 23rd provided by
> freebsd.org download site.
>=20
> After rebuilding and installing a complete "world" (make buildworld on a
> delete /usr/obj, so to ensure it is empty), I still face a nasty ssh prob=
lem
> (/usr/bin/ssh: Undefined symbol "msetlocale").
>=20
> I checked the age of the libraries, especially the libraries, which has
> supposedly been installed and although I did in the past update/buildworl=
d on a
> daily base, /lib is populated with libraries dated on February, 3rd,
> and /libexec still has the ld-elf.so libs from 23rd/24th.=20
>=20
> Using "kldload filemon" in conjuction with /etc/src-env.conf containing
> WITH_META_MODE=3D         YES I'd expect such a thing, but I got confused=
 with
> "/lib". Since Feb 3rd, LLVM 4.0 has been introduced and all libs should
> definitely have been recompiled, haven't they?
>=20
> After rebuilding a "clean" world, I'd like to know how I can force a comp=
lete
> and radical installation of ALL what's in /usr/src and /usr/obj - meaning=
: how
> to force the installation process to install even those libs/files/bins w=
hich
> the installer suppose to be not necessary to be installed?
>=20
> After two times rebuilding now world and installing it I can not get rid =
of
> this nasty ssh problem which prevents me from login onto remote systems a=
nd I
> suspect a faulty library to be the culprit. libprivatessh.so is installed=
 on
> every rund of installworld accordingly to its date/ctime, I also delete t=
he *.a
> and *_p.a archives and had them reinstalled, but without success.
>=20
> Help!
>=20
> Kind regards and thanks in advance,
>=20
> Oliver
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This highlights what I think is one of my foremost concerns as to 'why not =
is
part of FreeBSD yet' .... namely the proof that an installworld can complete
[think 'foolproof staging' ] before the installworld is actually 'ENTER' ke=
yed...
................
b...   fallback /var/db/pkg flat file pkg equivalent re-done and CARP-like =
failover
c...   2005 era install bsd ncurses menus allowing setting partitions and t=
ype
d...   pkg updates to allow 'beastie boot menu 'choose options' style fixin=
g of
         each line in each FreeBSD.conf and pkg.conf so that they are what
         pkg expects to be there, vs what are there... if you grasp that.
e...   lint >> GENERIC heavily commented to allow...
f...    e1...  an ncurses-build-line-by-line-completion of a kernel file so=
 that
         each line omit/include is understood as to consequence AKA bios me=
nus.
g...    flow chart [ 8 sided raw disk >> 8 side which raid do you want huge=
 2 meter
          by two meter ZFS decision tree aka shareware 1998 style inclusion=
s, some
          of them so one does not depend upon guides from, say, Solaris
h....   more, but that should do.  Just tacking on gossip, sorry... please =
read
         the three lines above this list so I do not de-emphasize the point=
 of this
          reply, and thank you so very kindly for reading.
=20
Sort of like a 'me too...'=20=20=20=



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