Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 19:45:41 +1000 From: John Marshall <john.marshall@riverwillow.com.au> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should 9.3 carry a warning about NEW_XORG Message-ID: <20140707094541.GA1074@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> In-Reply-To: <20140706220006.K50382@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <53B69B88.4060803@gmail.com> <E1X32XF-000PnU-QG@dilbert.ingresso.co.uk> <CAPyFy2BhARs%2BwxhOuP-09tcPgzerU00_ARy=o4OyKec9azTOkQ@mail.gmail.com> <20140705103235.GB7680@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> <alpine.BSF.2.11.1407050455010.5138@wonkity.com> <20140706220006.K50382@sola.nimnet.asn.au>
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--VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 06 Jul 2014, 23:47 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: > John has a T43 thinkpad, with unstated graphics hardware; intel 915 or=20 > Radeon X300 according to thinkwiki? For the record, Intel 915GM. I included full details a few days ago in my as-yet-unanswered post to -x11@. Troubleshooting my X failure wasn't the purpose of my post to -stable@; but it's sounding like the answer is probably "pre-2009 hardware unsupported by the 9.3 default NEW_XORG". > It seems that if you upgrade from 9.1 or 9.2 you will need to manually=20 > intervene, either way In my case (short story for a user with older hardware): - leaving make.conf as is lands me in X trouble - adding WITHOUT_NEW_XORG to make.conf keeps things working as for 9.2 > Seeing that a perhaps not miniscule proportion of 9.x X users will need= =20 > to do some manual configuration on upgrading to 9.3, a relevant WARNING= =20 > in http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/relnotes.html should be helpful. Definitely. Highlighting the fact that the 9.3 introduces a default NEW_XORG ports build, pointing out implications for folks with "older" hardware and the availability of the WITHOUT_NEW_XORG knob would, I think, be helpful. The ports infrastructure controls the logic for the NEW_XORG build decision but I think the fact that the result of that decision for 9.3-RELEASE is OPPOSITE to what it is for 9.2-RELEASE, and that building (now-default) NEW_XORG for folks with older hardware WILL break X for them, warrants a note in the 9.3 release documentation. --=20 John Marshall --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlO6bEUACgkQw/tAaKKahKIjfwCgsEAs4jClVd9IdVwZIe11Kcaw n5QAniOLuwDEF+Cz04pBF+EcViCZ1h3N =KYOl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb--
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