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Date:      Tue, 24 Sep 2024 13:26:07 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Thomas Laus <lausts@acm.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: New console output at boot?
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 11:55 AM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:

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> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 11:47 AM Thomas Laus <lausts@acm.org> wrote:
>
>> On 9/24/24 11:04, Warner Losh wrote:
>> > On Sun, Sep 22, 2024 at 6:21 PM Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:rkoberman@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Since an update to current a couple of weeks ago, I now see several
>> >     lines (6 or 7) early in the boot. I'm not sure whether it is from
>> >     one of the boots or the loader, but it comes out so quickly (and so
>> >     briefly) but it vanishes on my display before I can read it. I'm
>> >     guessing that some part of the boot. I'm guessing it is a warning to
>> >     update one or more of the files.
>> >
>> >     I'm running main-n272093-705583b76f3f on an amd64 system with UEFI
>> >     boot of a UFS2 file system. So far, I've seen nothing in UPDATING
>> >     that references it.
>> >
>> >
>> > I'll have to look at UPDATING.
>> >
>> > tl;dr: It's telling you your loader.efi is too old and needs to be
>> > updated. Too old here is somewhat too strict (since
>> > it requires a version bump recently, not the actual commits that
>> > introduced the compat code that I'd like to remove).
>> > It's harmless, at the moment, but is warning of potential problems in
>> > the future,
>> >
>> I see this same issue when 'gptzfsboot' on a non UEFI system is booted
>> and before the startup menu is displayed and have for over a month.
>> I've updated my boot partition to:
>>
>> FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT #13 1c6bb4c57
>>
>
> Impossible. Gptzfsboot is an earlier phase than the new message. It can't
> produce a mismatch. Only loader/loader.efi vs /boot/lua/* can cause this.
> And usually in this setup both are updated as a pair.
>

Thinking about it, I found a hole. If gptzfsboot picked the wrong BE this
could happen. And updating it might fix a bug that's causing it. Knowing
when your system last updated the gptzfsboot would be useful...

Warner

Ps sorry for the strong absolute tone...

Warner
>
>
> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> PGP KeyID = 0x5F22FDC1
>> GnuPG KeyID = 0x620836CF
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>>

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<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 11:55 AM Warner Losh &lt;<a href="mailto:imp@bsdimp.com">imp@bsdimp.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 11:47 AM Thomas Laus &lt;<a href="mailto:lausts@acm.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">lausts@acm.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 9/24/24 11:04, Warner Losh wrote:<br>
&gt; On Sun, Sep 22, 2024 at 6:21 PM Kevin Oberman &lt;<a href="mailto:rkoberman@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rkoberman@gmail.com</a> <br>
&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:rkoberman@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rkoberman@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;     Since an update to current a couple of weeks ago, I now see several<br>
&gt;     lines (6 or 7) early in the boot. I&#39;m not sure whether it is from<br>
&gt;     one of the boots or the loader, but it comes out so quickly (and so<br>
&gt;     briefly) but it vanishes on my display before I can read it. I&#39;m<br>
&gt;     guessing that some part of the boot. I&#39;m guessing it is a warning to<br>
&gt;     update one or more of the files.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;     I&#39;m running main-n272093-705583b76f3f on an amd64 system with UEFI<br>
&gt;     boot of a UFS2 file system. So far, I&#39;ve seen nothing in UPDATING<br>
&gt;     that references it.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I&#39;ll have to look at UPDATING.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; tl;dr: It&#39;s telling you your loader.efi is too old and needs to be <br>
&gt; updated. Too old here is somewhat too strict (since<br>
&gt; it requires a version bump recently, not the actual commits that <br>
&gt; introduced the compat code that I&#39;d like to remove).<br>
&gt; It&#39;s harmless, at the moment, but is warning of potential problems in <br>
&gt; the future,<br>
&gt;<br>
I see this same issue when &#39;gptzfsboot&#39; on a non UEFI system is booted <br>
and before the startup menu is displayed and have for over a month. <br>
I&#39;ve updated my boot partition to:<br>
<br>
FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT #13 1c6bb4c57<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Impossible. Gptzfsboot is an earlier phase than the new message. It can&#39;t produce a mismatch. Only loader/loader.efi vs /boot/lua/* can cause this. And usually in this setup both are updated as a pair.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thinking about it, I found a hole. If gptzfsboot picked the wrong BE this could happen. And updating it might fix a bug that&#39;s causing it. Knowing when your system last updated the gptzfsboot would be useful...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Warner</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ps sorry for the strong absolute tone...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Warner</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Tom<br>
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