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Date:      Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:21:35 +0100
From:      "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de>
To:        =?ISO-8859-15?Q?=22C=2E_Bergstr=F6m=22?= <cbergstrom@pathscale.com>
Cc:        App Deb <appdebgr@gmail.com>, "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD-similar build-from-source Linux?
Message-ID:  <4CDB28FF.9090002@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de>
In-Reply-To: <4CDAEF60.1090403@pathscale.com>
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On 11/10/10 20:15, "C. Bergstr=F6m" wrote:
> O. Hartmann wrote:
>>
>>> The NVIDIA FreeBSD driver provides the cuda libraries for linux
>>> compatibilty.
>>>
>>> So 32-bit Linux Cuda applications should work on FreeBSD.
>>
>> There are some other, very serious questions. AMD calims that they
>> made the specs of their 3D chipset internals public.
> The docs had big missing chunks which I tried to get clarification on
> and got some help and then it just one day stopped
>> There is OpenCL as an open standard
> Try to find the validation test suite.. ($$$)
>> , there is the CLANG/LLVM project even for FreeBSD
> Apple licenses it and doesn't publish all opencl work. (or I think may
> not even contribute to the opencl side at all anymore.. someone correct=
 me)
>> to become the new standard compiler and, not at last, there is work
>> done on drivers for AMD graphics boards but there is no, not even
>> rudimentary, support for GPGPU. I preferr a clean open source
>> solution, but at the moment, it seems to be the best and easiest path
>> to switch to an operating system that is fully supported, even 64 bit.=

> Side question - Why care in the least bit about AMD? Their hw sucks and=

> their software is a joke.. (if you bought Evergreen I'm sorry..)

By the way - way is the hardware crap? Can you please be more specific?=20
AMD claims to have a higher effective double precision throughput than=20
nVidia, they also claim not having cut off most of their double=20
precision capable facilities like nVidia even on their mass market=20
products (but I'm not sure about that since this fact is very often=20
hidden by intention). Their software doesn't really matter since I most=20
FreeBSD users use the open source driver. Well, I never saw a working 64 =

bit capable driver on FreeBSD, that's right.

Please do not understand this as a tricky question, I'm serious, since I =

plan to purchase new hardware for my computer at home (FreeBSD) and even =

for my lab's computer(s).

And by the way, no, I havn't bought 'Evergreen', I have much more=20
disappointing HD4830 and not properly working HD4770 and HD4670 ... (not =

GPGPU capable by design).
>
> There's no such thing as a complete open source GPGPU solution as of
> today (to the best of my knowledge)
>
> ./C
>




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