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Date:      Mon, 5 Jan 2026 17:24:30 -0800
From:      Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
To:        freebsd-test@freebsd.org
Cc:        Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Misc. as part of usage testing
Message-ID:  <1120fc06-36c8-439f-b439-fb33703e8535@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <db83d9d2-e74a-4008-9c7e-277c95954037@yahoo.com>
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[Yes, this has an example of a series of replies to myself.]

On 1/5/26 10:24, Mark Millard wrote:
> On 1/5/26 09:49, Mark Millard wrote:
>> On 1/4/26 21:15, Mark Millard wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I'll note that the:
>>>
>>> gmane.os.freebsd.current.scm_dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org
>>>
>>> information is incoherent. It reports:
>>>
>>> List Address: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org
>>> (The description text matches reasonably.)
>>>
>>> But later reports . . .
>>>
>>> alias    dev-commits-src-all@FreeBSD.org
>>> alias    dev-commits-src-all@FreeBSD.org
>>>
>>> (Yep: listed twice.)
>>>
>>> In reality dev-commits-src-main and dev-commits-src-all
>>> are distinct lists, with dev-commits-src-main having
>>> only a subset.
>>>
>>>
>>> Most lists I looked at say mailman for "Mailing List Software but
>>> this one is suggestive of being more accurate: mlmmj+
>>>
>>>
>>> gmane.os.freebsd.devel.pkg freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org shows:
>>>
>>> encode    encrypt
>>>
>>> May be that explains the odd, long bugzilla-noreply-* text?
>>>
>>> Lots to learn.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> As is common for me, I later have additional notes to add to
>> my prior submittal as I've run into something while gathering
>> evidence or am otherwise figuring things out. Some of these
>> are messages are sent hour(s) later.
>>
>>
>> It appears that the Gmane Autoauthorizer notices that report
>> "[t]he mailing list software used for the list in question is
>> mailman" are giving bad instructions as Mlmmj and mailman
>> do not seem to be compatible for such things, if I understand
>> right --and the FreeBSD lists are Mlmmj based these days.
>>
>> I'm also not sure what the "+" is about in the "mlmmj+". It
>> might be an error to be corrected.
>>
>>
>> I've learned that listing the newsgroup and your Email
>> address for the send did not lead to the message showing up
>> via https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-test/ .
>>
>>
> 
> Well, the above did make it to:
> 
> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-test/2026-January/000344.html
> 
> The prior notification related to the original
> message was:
> 
> QUOTE
> You are now authorized to post to the
> gmane.os.freebsd.test newsgroup.
> 
> The original message you sent to the newsgroup will be
> posted within ten minutes.
> 
> Your friendly autoauthorizer at Gmane.io
> https://gmane.io/
> END QUOTE
> 
> It was wrong relative to indicating that the original
> message would show up there.
> 
> 
> Given that the new message went through, it seems that if
> I see a freebsd-*@freebsd.org for the same list(s) show
> up in the To list, it may be that I should delete
> it/them from the To list before sending.
> 

I got that wrong: sending to the list requires the likes
of freebsd-test@freebsd.org be listed as well as well as
the likes of gmane.os.freebsd.test . The one that went
through this morning had a freebsd-test@freebsd.org but
I had not noticed it at the time.

Progress anyway.


-- 
===
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com


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