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Date:      Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:54:38 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (Rodney W. Grimes)
Cc:        ben@scientia.demon.co.uk, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Filtering port 25 (was Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to   talk to dialups)
Message-ID:  <199909282354.QAA14538@usr07.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <199909252335.QAA08631@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Sep 25, 99 04:35:50 pm

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> They already are, and you don't even know it.  It may be at a major
> provider near you soon too.  These are _NOT_ proxy boxes, these are
> the new generation of ``no change needed to client boxes'' web caches.

Pull the other one, and then ask Paul Vixie about his "Interceptor"
box, and what's currently going on with it.


> SMTP deserves very special attention due to the fact that the number 1
> complaint of users of the internet is *SPAM*.  SPAM is propogated via
> smtp.  Do I need to say more?  I can if I do.

I think you need to block POP3 and "Pine".  Most SPAM is propagated
via either reading it at the ISP, or using POP3 and pulling it down 
nto client machines.



> HTTP deserves special treatment as it consumes 76% of our upstream
> channel.  Our ability to reduce the cost of rendering service is good
> common business practice.  If you want to continue to pay $15/month
> for a service I can cost effeciency reduce to $8.00/month go right ahead,
> meanwhile I'll be chomping away at your heals.

Block them animated GIF banner ads... that'll decrease your overhead.


> You can add up ALL the other protocols and they don't even make a
> dent compared to HTTP traffic.

And pictures, in particular.  Ignoring that, you have "nocache" pages
of dynamic content, where in fact it's a rather trivial addition to allow
HTTP transported dynamic content to be cached on a per document basis.

Though not transparently, without client modifications.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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