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Date:      Fri, 16 Jan 2026 18:25:47 +0000
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To:        pkgbase@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   [Bug 291806] The pkgbase release of 15.0-RELEASE is missing the MINIMAL kernel and several other packages
Message-ID:  <bug-291806-36141-dVYDgwRRUp@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #13 from Mark Millard <marklmi26-fbsd@yahoo.com> ---
(In reply to Vick Khera from comment #12)

The RelEng team had and have little or nothing to do with
pkgbase for 14.*, including for 14.3-RELEASE as far as I
can tell. 15.0 is the first that they support and they
will support 15+ --but not any 14.*-RELEASE or before if
I understand right: pkgbase stays experimental for 14.* 
--including future 14.* releases.

That, of itself, is sufficient for pkgbase use with 14.*
to be experimental. There are other reasons as well. Think
of pkgbase for 14.* as the alpha/beta test version and
pkgbase for 15.*'s technology preview(s) (as long as such
a status lasts) as the release candidates for the pkgbase
infrastructure, including its use for official releases.

As for finding the 14.* kernels, that is easy: unlike
official 15.0-RELEASE pkgbase, 14.*-RELEASE's pkgbase
package files are explorable via
https://pkg.freebsd.org/ :

14.3:
https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:14:amd64/base_release_3/
https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:14:i386/base_release_3/

14.2:
https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:14:amd64/base_release_2/
https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:14:i386/base_release_2/

14.1:
https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:14:amd64/base_release_1/
https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:14:i386/base_release_1/

14.0:
https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:14:amd64/base_release_0/
https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:14:i386/base_release_0/

All of those include FreeBSD-kernel-minimal*.pkg files
but none of that is via RelEng activity or their ways of
working for making releases.

All of the above were built much like pkgbase 14.*-STABLE
is built and by the same person.

If you looks in other:

https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:14:*/base_release_*/

you will not find any FreeBSD-kernel-minimal*.pkg files
last I knew special to amd64 (and its related i386).


Note: One has to use pkg commands to explore what pkgbase
files exist for 15.0-RELEASE, as far as I know. And for
that to produce current information, one has to have
implicitly or explicitly done a recent "pkg update"
(not necessarily involving a pkg upgrade) with
FreeBSD-base (or the older name) Enabled instead of
disabled. (That explains why my examples with
.snap202601* files names have somewhat older dates:
FreeBSD-base was disabled and so the information
stayed at the older values.)

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