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Date:      Sun, 25 Jan 1998 17:30:17 -0800 (PST)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
To:        Chris Dillon <cdillon@tri-lakes.net>
Cc:        Donald Burr <dburr@POBoxes.com>, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: Minor annoyances with ZIP Plus
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.980125172938.13074B-100000@current1.whistle.com>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.980125180228.cdillon@tri-lakes.net>

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even the old code can do this..
I'll look at doint that.


On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, Chris Dillon wrote:

> 
> On 25-Jan-98 Donald Burr wrote:
> >>I just got a IOMega ZIP Plus and am using it with an Adaptec 1522
> >>(AIC6360,
> >>aic0).  It works fine in Win95, and fine in FreeBSD for the most part,
> >>other
> >>than some rather annoying error messages when trying to use it for
> >>various
> >>things.  Any time I mount/umount a disk, change it, and do the same again
> >>(or
> >>even use mtools).  You'll notice an error when probing the drive attached
> >>to
> >>aic0 and all the errors at the bottom (which occur when I try to use it
> >>after
> >>changing disks):
> >
> >Don't worry; these errors are "normal".  Well, as "normal" as Iomega SCSI
> >devices get, anyway.  Apparently Iomega subscribes to some "weird",
> >non-standard variant of SCSI, in that their devices do not support certain
> >SCSI commands mandated by the SCSI specification, specifically, those SCSI
> >commansd that ask a device to specify its geometry (size, #
> >heads/sectors/etc.).  When presented with this anomalous behavior, the
> >FreeBSD driver guesses the device's geometry, and so everything still
> >works.
> 
> Aaah, and the light comes on over my head. ;->  I guess Justin's new CAM code
> and the 'quirk entries' will be able to provide a neat hack for this problem? 
> Any tested hacks I can apply to this non-CAM (2.2.5-STABLE) system to make this
> thing shut up?
> 
> >
> >I see the same behavior with my Iomega Jaz drive, and with a prevous Zip
> >drive I used to own.
> >
> >My advice is not to worry about it, shake your head sadly at Iomega's lack
> >of direction, and move on with life. :)
> 
> I would have chosen something besides this lousy ZIP drive, but this seems to
> be the direction everybody is going with removable media, even though there are
> several products out there that are faster/hold more/cheaper, etc. etc... (sigh)
> I think we need to get everyone we can to complain to IOMega about their
> (lack-of) following standards.  I wonder if the firmware in these things is
> flash upgradable.  No mention of it in their specs, that I can see.  Hmmmm....
> 
> 
> --- Chris Dillon
> --- cdillon@tri-lakes.net
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