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Date:      Wed, 4 Mar 1998 05:03:58 -0700
From:      Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
To:        Stephen Wynne <stevemw@northwest.com>
Cc:        java@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Crashes with Swing 1.0.1 and Lesstif 0.82/port
Message-ID:  <199803041203.FAA08335@mt.sri.com>
In-Reply-To: <34FE363B.754CD29E@northwest.com>
References:  <34FE16DA.4353A30E@northwest.com> <34FE363B.754CD29E@northwest.com>

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> o What is the Motif licensing arrangement? It's too bad we can't
>   create a "libawtmotif.so" from source, link to, and then
>   begin distributing that.

No can do, since the libawt.so could be used as a Motif library (if
renamed), which isn't legal.

> o Which Motif libraries should I buy? Do I have a choice? From
>   http://www.xig.com/products/pricelst.html I can see that in the USA,
>   I'd be paying $150.

They are the only commercial vendor I'm aware of.

> In later mail <199803040411.VAA06309@mt.sri.com>, Nate Williams writes:
> 
>     FWIW, as long as I'm building public releases, I will be using
>     Motif, and will be building releases that don't require you to
>     have Motif.  If you want Motif for your own work, feel free to buy
>     it.
> 
> I *really* appreciate that, and I think a lot of other people will,
> too. But it doesn't help me to make tweaks to the sources and then
> use a source-level debugger, even if Nate compiles with debugging
> symbols.

True.  But, even *I* don't care to do much of that. :) :)

> P.S. We might want to let the Lesstif people know about these problems
> in detail. This could be a real boost to them if they could fix the
> problems, and one of them might be willing to apply for the JDK source
> license and do it. Even if I give up on Lesstif for now, I admire the
> project and hope it goes well in the future!

Feel free.  My personal goal is to have a working JDK.  The use of
LessTif was never something I wanted, since I'm aware that it's pretty
buggy.  If someone else is willing to send them the bugs, feel free, but
for me I don't have the time nor the desire to do it.  I've got enough
other 'free software projects' to worry about. :)


Nate

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