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Date:      Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:01:31 +0200
From:      Andre Albsmeier <andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/finger finger.c
Message-ID:  <20001006090131.A61051@curry.mchp.siemens.de>
In-Reply-To: <20001005233620.B27736@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 11:36:20PM -0700
References:  <ru@FreeBSD.org> <200010051715.e95HFVn34590@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20001005135833.A87853@citusc17.usc.edu> <20001005142209.G27736@fw.wintelcom.net> <20001006074832.A9078@curry.mchp.siemens.de> <20001005233620.B27736@fw.wintelcom.net>

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On Thu, 05-Oct-2000 at 23:36:20 -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> * Andre Albsmeier <andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de> [001005 22:48] wrote:
> > On Thu, 05-Oct-2000 at 14:22:09 -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > You know, perhaps after two security holes we should just
> > > > back this darn thing out until someone can review it?
> > > 
> > > I think a good policy about this is to:
> > > 
> > > 1) look at the feature and patch
> > > 2) think about it really hard
> > > 3) realize how f*cking useless and dangerous it is
> > > 4) tell the submitter "no, sorry but i can't possibly put this in!"
> > > 5) sit back and have a beer to congratulate yourself after not
> > >    introducing yet another security issue.
> > > 
> > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin%2F11997
> > 
> > The patch described in the PR mentioned above is NOT useless.
> > Maybe for you since you either got /var/spool/samba and
> > /var/spool/lpd each on different 8GB filesystems or because
> > all of your 1200 dpi color printers are currently out for
> > repair.
> > 
> > Of course, a patch can contain security holes -- especially
> > if the submitter mentiones it in the text and is explicitly
> > asking for reviewing it.
> > 
> > I wouldn't judge things useless only because _I_ can't use it...
> 
> In the form it was in the PR, ie "huge gaping security hole the
> size of Montana" it was entirely useless.
> 
> I should have said "useless/dangerous", not all useless patches
> are dangerous but all dangerous patches are useless until corrected.

In this case, it would have been enough to write

3) realize how (f*cking) dangerous it is

:-). I read your words as if you tried to say that the whole thing
is useless but, anyway, this has been cleared out now.

	-Andre


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