Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 15:19:38 -0400 From: Christopher Masto <chris@masto.com> To: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed@reedmedia.net> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mailing list comparisons? Message-ID: <20020428191938.GB31570@netmonger.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0204100932290.14412-100000@pilchuck.reedmedia.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0204100932290.14412-100000@pilchuck.reedmedia.net>
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 09:44:22AM -0700, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > I am looking for a mailing list: If you're still working on your summary, we've been using Sympa <http://listes.cru.fr/sympa/>; for a while to run quite a few lists. I have some answers and comments. > - manage via email (web-based management not required) Yes. > - users aren't forced to use a password to unsubscribe Probably. (Configurable, but not a configuration I use.) > - detect hard bounces and unsubscribe as needed Sort of. This works for welcome and reminder messages, but the actual list messages don't use unique bounce addresses. They _are_ collected, analyzed, and summarized through the web interface, but sometimes the software can't identify the bouncing address. > - has a reasonable good track record of non-security issues. I don't think it's well-known enough to have been thoroughly looked at from a security standpoint. At a minimum, it doesn't have any obvious gaping problems. > - lightweight, but perl is okay (that doesn't make sense :) Sympa is written in Perl. Comments: Sympa is from France. While it is designed with localization built in, the current English translations are not very good. (I wish I had the time to fix them.) While it seems extremely stable and quite efficient once running, I always have to fix a couple of problems to get it running. The code is quite messy and not well organized (lots of copy-and-paste -- I've noticed that when fixing bugs, I often have to fix the same bug for each command). We got into Sympa mainly because I had a huge grudge against Majordomo. I don't know what I'd choose now -- I don't like Mailman, I very much dislike ezmlm, and I haven't explored Majordomo 2. One thing recent versions of Sympa have is a fairly complete web interface. Although you can do all the normal things via e-mail, the web frontend is nice for relative newbies. It includes virtually all list configuration, moderation, etc. You can still edit the config files by hand. -- "Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say, What should be the reward of such sacrifices? ... If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom -- go from us in peace. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you." -- Samuel Adams, 1776 CB461C61 8AFC E3A8 7CE5 9023 B35D C26A D849 1F6E CB46 1C61 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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